[macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac mini already running leopard?
- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:51:30 -0400
I try to stay out of circles <g>
Oh, I understand fully how it feels to hav a computer die. I've had that
experience with hard drives. I do though and will run bootcamp for the
advantages it brings such as allowing me to use the entire computer for
windows when I need it and not having to worry whether my vm will fowl. I
see the advantages in running fusion or a vm but I don't see the advantages
for running a vm unless you need those advantages.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lewis Brock" <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:36 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac
mini already running leopard?
its ok mate. you're obviously not in the circles that some of us
others have been in. its not pleasant to have a jaws system read out
3 dialogues that cannot be stopped. its incredibly un nerving when a
hacker loads up a data string even through certain firewalls and
formats your hard drive.
its happened to me and I lost a good windows laptop. oops did I say
good.... no hang on I mean crap.... lol yep windows is an element of
foul language between me and some others especially members of family
lol
lew
On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:32, David Poehlman wrote:
> what is not to understand is that you can lock down windows.
>
> I've been running various computers with windows for over 15 years
> and never
> had a meltdown like this. If this is as serious as you suggest and
> I am not
> saying it's not, it's being well unpublicized. The language is over
> my
> head.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lewis Brock" <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:21 AM
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on
> a mac
> mini already running leopard?
>
>
> what is not to understand david? the simplicity is this
>
> because of the way in which windows as an operating system is
> structured, coded and packaged, it is open to attacks, code violations
> and more. have you ever been the victim of a malicious windows system
> hack that has done fatal damage forcing a disk replacement, even
> worse a total computer replacement?
>
> a hacker can target the zero sector of the drive when windows is
> breached, perform a series of attacks and string instructions which
> cannot be stopped. then thats it. furthermore a hacker can directly
> access in most cases the mainboard itself and change controls. even
> lock you out completely. turn off heatsync etc. dangerous stuff. so it
> is not something I could ever recommend having bootcamp to run windows
> all the time. even though the hardware logic board is different to a
> windows machine it can still be attacked by malicious hackers. this
> can be researched through computer forensics studies
>
> lew
>
> running this system however in VM ware is safer as I say. the
> operating system in question creates a virtual partition which can be
> destroyed if infected etc and it will not harm the system due to the
> architecture of VM Ware Fusion. all hardware including the logic board
> is emulated but at the same time utilised directly. so its safer in VM
> Ware.
> simple as
>
>
>
> I won't present my personal views on windows on a mac as it will spark
> off another discussion lol
>
> lew
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:13, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>> Dunnno, I've seen lots of people declairing issues with fusion. It
>> seems
>> less streightforward to setup and use than bootcamp and the biggest
>> issues
>> I've seen with bootcamp are those of not following the instructions
>> properly. I don't understand your answer about security below.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lewis Brock" <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:09 AM
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on
>> a mac
>> mini already running leopard?
>>
>>
>> think about this logically. you install windows directly to boot camp
>> as a direct partition to the hard drive. this then directly relies on
>> all hardware ports. therefore if you were to be hacked etc the system
>> can be compromised. doing this in VMWARE does not have this risk as
>> all hardware is protected and emulative. having had experience with
>> VM
>> Ware products etc you notice a difference straight away.
>>
>> lew
>>
>>
>> On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:05, David Poehlman wrote:
>>
>>> how is fusion more secure than bootcamp?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lewis Brock" <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:11 AM
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on
>>> a mac
>>> mini already running leopard?
>>>
>>>
>>> I would highly recommend that you use a product called VMWare fusion
>>> which is a mac application to allow windows and other operating
>>> systems to run as virtual machines. it is easy to deal with and is
>>> more secure than mounting on a bootcamp volume. it is safer and
>>> should anything go wrong with the volume, simply rebuild it. doing
>>> things through bootcamp is something I advise against as you could
>>> accidently destroy the main macintosh volume declaring you mac
>>> useless. so then using the restore media that came with your mac.
>>>
>>> there are tutorials to be found on main menu at ACB radio.
>>>
>>> lew
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 Apr 2008, at 14:04, vashaun jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> Read the manual! Just joking...are you wanting to use Bootcamp or
>>>> run it virtually?
>>>> On Apr 20, 2008, at 8:57 AM, David Truong wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HI Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I really want to learn how to install windows xp pro sp2 onto my
>>>>> Mac Mini
>>>>> which has Leopard already installed on it. My mac mini is an
>>>>> Intel
>>>>> based
>>>>> model. If you can give me some serious answers or any proper
>>>>> links
>>>>> to
>>>>> information where one can read up on how to achieve this, that
>>>>> would be much
>>>>> appreciated. However, if you intend to reply with sarcastic and
>>>>> unhelpful
>>>>> messages like read the manual etc, don't bother replying as I
>>>>> won't
>>>>> be
>>>>> bothered wasting my time reading them. Thanks in advance to
>>>>> those
>>>>> of you
>>>>> who are truly interested in helping.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Truong
>>>>>
>>>>> EMail and Messenger:
>>>>> davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: blindboxer1967
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of vashaun
>>>>> jones
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 20 April 2008 10:06 PM
>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Wakoopa, nice way to share our
>>>>> software
>>>>>
>>>>> This is great but because top secret software is always being
>>>>> tested
>>>>> on my end I don't think I could join. When I buy another Mac I'll
>>>>> get
>>>>> on board because all I do is test software, so I would have allot
>>>>> to
>>>>> contribute. Great find!
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Orin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you guys are looking for nice fun community to brag about what
>>>>>> your friends use on a daily bases, what they've started using,
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> they're most used software is, etc. Check out Wakoopa, a totally
>>>>>> accessible socal software network at http://www.wakoopa.com. I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> created a blind mac users team called "Mac Voiceover." Teams
>>>>>> are a
>>>>>> way for a group to get together, us, as Mac users, for example,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> we have a feed on people started using, and at the top of the
>>>>>> page
>>>>>> we have the most used/hot applications. Best of all there are
>>>>>> widgets now that you can post on your blog or what have you so
>>>>>> everyone can see what you are doing at the present moment on the
>>>>>> Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After signing up, you will be required to download a small
>>>>>> application which tracks what you are doing. If, for example, you
>>>>>> are in a beta program, don't forget to shut this down before
>>>>>> opening
>>>>>> it, as you will share it with the world (I don't know if there is
>>>>>> any way to control what you share). Otherwise, after you enter
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> username and password, simply start doing daily things and you'll
>>>>>> see a programs list start to build up in your profile. After you
>>>>>> sign up and get the tracker set up, be sure to join the Mac
>>>>>> Voiceover team by going to http://www.wakoopa.com/teams/
>>>>>> macvoiceover
>>>>>> and join it so we get more software than mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, and hope to see some new members and comments on the
>>>>>> messages part of the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Orin
>>>>>> orin.angi@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> MSN: joshuatubbs1@xxxxxxx
>>>>>> Skype: orin1112
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you like mudding? To discuss related topics, go here.
>>>>> http://www.tbmic.jiglu.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you like audio books? Would you like to hear them with
>>>>>> enritching
>>>>>> sound, music and acting? Stop reading books from the NLS, and go
>>>>>> to
>>>>> http://www.graphicaudio.net
>>>>>> , you'll be glad you did. I don't work there, but I love them so
>>>>>> much I have to advertise them in every email I send.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> Totally blind musician and composer of 21st century synth orchestral
>> music
>>
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> Mr. Lewis Brock
> Totally blind musician and composer of 21st century synth orchestral
> music
>
> Phone: +44 07857 352828
> E-Mail: lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx
> Skype: lewisjbrock
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