[macvoiceover] Re: Ready to take the plunge, but...

yes, but this is more the fault of the maker of the phone screen reader and the notetaker maker than it is the mac. But, yes, there are some things you must use windows for. I still must use windows for my work because it is required. 

On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Bob Hill wrote:
Well, I had a Windows machine that crashed, so I needed to purchase a new computer. I have had the iMac for almost a year now, and I only find a few things which I wish I had Windows for. Such as installing my screen reader for my cell phone, getting firmware for my notetaker, and such. I still haven't installed Windows on this Mac, and right now, I'm guessing I can use someone's computer if I *really* need Windows. 

Bob Hill

On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:09 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
I don't know how to say this but I'm going to try and say something which some may find useful.
As long as you think you have a better solution than vo, you will never learn the power of it. I went through this thing where gee, I can use jaws so much faster than vo and then one day, found myself breezing through web sites and using things like the item chooser, the links list, the find commands on the mac and one day, I picked up my pc after a long time of not using it and just could not use jaws as efficiently any more. what with all those keystrokes, jumping in and out of forms mode and so on, I found the mac finally to be much more efficient. I then did some analysis for hard factual data and realized that what I was experiencing was born out. fewer keystrokes are necessary. less guess work is necessary. navigation is easier, getting to what is needed or desired is easier.
This is not a me thing. this is not a preference thing or an us vs them thing, I am glad jaws was around when I needed it and didn't have anything else. You do though have to apply yourself to the mac as though you have nothing else to use to realize the full power of it. 

On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Ricardo wrote:

Hi Russ,
I've had a mac for 14 months and I too find using the keystrokes to be second nature. I must say though I use my windows Pc for my intensive web browsing sessions. I just don't like the internet on the mac using voiceover in comparison to windows with jaws. Don't get me wrong, The browser with voiceover is useable on the mac, but I just feel like I can navigate quicker on my windows machine. 

Ricardo

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From: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:14 PM
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [macvoiceover] Ready to take the plunge, but...


Hi all,
Okay, I'm ready to take the plunge and buy an iMac 20", but have just one final question for everyone before I do...
I'm sure, like me, most of you have come from using Windows with either Jaws or WindowEyes. For those of you who have been using the Mac for a while now, would you say that you're as productive on the Mac as you once were on Windows? I mean, for me, using Jaws is second nature to me... I don't even need to think about what keystrokes to use, I just interact with whatever program I need to to complete a given task. Now, I know I've also been using Jaws for some 15 years now, so don't expect to get to this level of proficiency overnight, but what do you long time Mac users think? Has using the VO keystrokes become second nature to you? Once one uses the Mac for a while, does navigating in Safari become as easy as navigating IE with Jaws or WE? 

Thanks for any and all opinions!

Russell


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