Hi, indeed! I forgot about fn when accessing the first steps guide. I had deactivated this when using windows since one needs the function keys more often than the louder softer brighter dimmer keys. I also found vo u for the web object list and how to navigate it. That helped a lot. Javascript seems still to be somewhat tricky. Cheers Still writing this mail using outlook express under windoze. :-D Jeronimo Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Durieux To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:41 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Quick start guide Hi Jeronimo, If you are using a macbook you need to press also the function key to access f8. To learn the keys on your keyboard use the keyboard help by pressing vo (ctrl + option) and k. If you press a key on your keyb, voice over will announce the key name etc. To exit the keyboardlearning mode press escape. The fn-key is located on the bottom left of your keyboard. Hope this helps. -Peter Op 3-apr-2010, om 08:38 heeft Jeronimo Schöber het volgende geschreven: Hello, they say one can access a quick start guide pressing ctrl option command f8. This should be the three keys to the left of my space bar and f8 right? Well, nothing happens. Any hints or other resources for first steps material. Thanks Jeronimo