[macvoiceover] Re: Questions after playing with readiris demo

In theory that all sounds good, but it isn't true in the real world, and by the way, I don't believe in the Windows Mac mindset. There should only be the way you cope with things. Apple and Microsoft have nothing to do with what I am saying. If you think they do then your focus is quite narrow. 
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Here again is the windows vs mac mindset.
If you're going to completely switch to the mac, you *really* need to get rid of the windows mindset. OSX is a *fully* accessible os, and there is no need to wish for full access, it already exists with most applications. And, since apple themselves makes the tools available for developing applications for the mac, they do a great deal to alert developers to the accessibility features of the applications. Unlike windows, all osx developers at least are aware there is a disability api for osx, even if they don't know exactly what it is. Thus, emailing a developer, and asking to have a button labeled with an accessible tag, or asking them to put accessible text on other items usually meets with a positive response, because they know what's going on, and why. This kind of cooperation is not possible on windows, because in most cases, developers aren't even aware of disabled users, and even if they are, generally, they don't know what needs done to make their apps accessible. Apple has entire website sections devoted strictly to accessiblity, and how to make programs work with voiceover and their other access functions. Their developer tools include access into each product produced, and as long as developers follow simple guidelines laid out by apple, then an application is accessible right out of the box, and often times, the developer doesn't know disabled users are using their programs, because they did such a good job, they never even get complaints about it not working. 
This is the biggest difference between osx and windows.
Things *do* work with full access on osx, and the whole we can't expect full access attitude is really getting old. Osx *does* offer full access, and will continue to do so as long as folks keep developers aware of the issues. 



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