[macvoiceover] Re: Questions
- From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:25:38 -0400
one more thing to consider is that you can put full windowsxp/vista on
a Mac right alongside the Mac os. This should you need it gives you
access to all the windows you need. If you run Windows under
"bootcamp", you can use it with any assistive technology. Boootcamp
is in beta and free for download and will be included in the soon to
be released next edition of Mac osx. There are virtual machine
options for the Mac, but they cost and they are limitted as to what
assistive technologies are supported. Another disadvantage to the vm
approach is that you must split your ram which means in essence that
if you have 3gb of ram, you have in reality, 1.5 for each system which
should still be adaquate but should be taken into account.
On Apr 7, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
On Apr 7, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Ari wrote:
Hi all,
I will first put my situation in perspective.
I am a Politics student, so not really what you would call much of
an IT-type expert.
My laptop has finally given up the ghost, and for its replacement, I
am thinking of a mac, as I am excited about the fact that VO is
built into the operating system, but there are a few very important
questions I'd like answers to.
1. I found some blog called Blind Confidential, and the author
reckons that Apple is not really committed to accessibility, that VO
is just there to comply with the legislation that you guys in
America have. Obviously I know that it's just a point of view, but
what I'd like to know is, is how often is VO updated, or is
accessibility that good that people don't fall behind when newer
software is released? Is Apple really committed, or will I regret
going for the Mac option?
Apple VoiceOver is updated with each operating system update. As it is
part of the operating system itself. If needed intermediate updates
are provided free over the internet as with other parts of the MacOS.
As it is integrated with the OS update to VoiceOver cost only what the
OS costs. It is not a added cost as it is in Windows.
Apple is fully committed to VoiceOver and is expanding it to support
braille devices.
2. These are the following tasks I want to use VO for, I don't mind
putting in the effort to learn VO, but I want to know if these tasks
can be performed well.
2.1 Advanced word processing, such as working with tables, and when
I edit text I obviously need to be able to work with the text
effectively, such as fonts, adjusting the line spacing, headers and
footers, etc.
With VoiceOver it is up to the software maker to insure compatibility.
Several word processors are in the process of making the needed
changes. iText Express is a free word processor that support headers,
footers, footnotes and such and is VoiceOver compatible.
For academic papers that require the highest standards of layout and
presentation nothing comes close to the TeX and LaTeX typesetting
system on either Mac or Windows. TeXShop is fully VoiceOver compatible
as is BibDesk the bibliographic database system that is compatible
with TeX and LaTeX. You should be warned however that TeX and LaTex
are complex systems with a steep learning curve.
2.2 How well does VO work with Skype?
Not as well as I wish it would there was an early version of Skype
That worked better. I will put a copy of it on my server if you like.
2.3 OCR?
2.4 I have a device onto which I load my textbooks, the Book
Courier, anyway of getting it to work with the Mac?
BookCourier is not a real DAISY playback device. Rather it converts
DAISY to it's own format. If your books are simply text files I have
written an installer tool for Mac that can install them. Let me know.
2.5 I'm doing German, anyway of finding a German voice for reading
my documents?
VoiceOver is an English only interface system at the moment. You can
however get German voices from Cepstral and AssistiveWare.
Mac is based on Unix, do we have access to a type of shell to run
text-based applications with VO?
Yes there is a terminal application as part of the OS and you can use
the UNIX application with it and VoiceOver.
2.6 And since it's a laptop, the obvious question is how much does a
person rely on the full-sized keyboard's numeric pad when using VO?
VoiceOver is fully usable from a laptop keyboard.
Sorry if these questions sounded basic, it's just that I'm going to
see a Mac for the first time next week, so somehow need to know what
I'm getting in to if I take the Mac option.
Thanks
Ari
Greg Kearney
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Hi all, I will first put my situation in perspective.I am a Politics student, so not really what you would call much of an IT-type expert. My laptop has finally given up the ghost, and for its replacement, I am thinking of a mac, as I am excited about the fact that VO is built into the operating system, but there are a few very important questions I'd like answers to. 1. I found some blog called Blind Confidential, and the author reckons that Apple is not really committed to accessibility, that VO is just there to comply with the legislation that you guys in America have. Obviously I know that it's just a point of view, but what I'd like to know is, is how often is VO updated, or is accessibility that good that people don't fall behind when newer software is released? Is Apple really committed, or will I regret going for the Mac option?
2.2 How well does VO work with Skype?
2.3 OCR?2.4 I have a device onto which I load my textbooks, the Book Courier, anyway of getting it to work with the Mac?
Thanks Ari
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