I spoke too soon. Pages is better in SL. It now tells me what page I am on, but I still can't get it to say bold etc. I thought I had speak attributes on so I don't know what's up. I need to test a few more things like indents need to read and I need to be able to change fonts but maybe I can in snow leopard. I sure hope so! I'd like to throw away Microsoft Word and never touch it again. Right now I could use Pages for small things like letters or even poems etc. where I don't need to worry about formatting as much as with essays. Sara