[macvoiceover] Re: Navigon

  • From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:28:00 -0400

Hi,

Thanks for the excellent note and the terrific information in it. As you may or may not know, I have spent a whole lot of time testing various GPS solutions (you can go to my blog: www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com and search for a number of items I have written on the subject). I was also still VP of software engineering at Freedom Scientific when we made the first version of StreatTalk (a very poor solution that I am told is really good now but as I haven't a PAC Mate with me, I can't give it a personal whirl).

The biggest of my complaints from yesterday, that it told me to turn in exactly the opposite direction than I knew was correct, turned out to be user error. First off, I had it set to automobile as I thought that, like most iPhone applications, settings were "sticky." Second, I had managed to get myself entirely turned around and, in fact, I was facing the "wrong" direction and the Navigon software was trying to correct me. I retraced the route after I posted my message yesterday and all was pretty good. Now I understand why my dog was acting so oddly on our route.

The disappearing button issue may be a design flaw but it feels more like a bug to me. I just reproduced it thusly: From the Main menu select "favorites," in my case select "YWCA" (it's my only favorite, you then find yourself in an address page with buttons "Favorites," "Start Navigation" and "More..." - none of which get me back to the Main Menu. Under "More..." I can set my profile and under that set speed to pedestrian. When I get back to the address page, though, I still have no way back to the Main Menu that I can find.

I'm assuming that there is no way to edit a map? I'd like to add a POI into the middle of a route so the map will bring me through Harvard Yard rather than on the streets around it. So, if I could add the statue of John Harvard and the fountain at the Harvard Science Center I might be able to go "off road" if such is possible. These features are in Mobile Geo and the Nuance thing (I don't know Wayfinder/Access very well). If I need to stick to roads I can fudge a few things in a map I can, if it behaves like most GPS/Nav solutions, edit to force it to bring me to certain places in a particular order by kind of confusing it.

Ok, I understand that pedestrian mode doesn't effect the map but only the expected speed of motion. I haven't tried entering an address out by my mother-in-law's house (20 miles west of here or so) an automobile map would include the Massachusetts Turnpike as it is the most efficient way of getting from Cambridge to Natick. If I really felt like a hike, though, I would need directions that included only secondary roads as pedestrians (for good reason) aren't allowed on the Pike. Is Is it possible to force Navigon into a route calculation that does not include serious highways?

Now that I know it bit better, I like it a whole lot more than yesterday when I was sure I was going to ask for my $70 back. I really wish it had an editable text list so I can understand in advance the gestalt of my journey and I would put near the top of my feature wish list a true pedestrian mode that ignores the direction of one way streets and lets me set "breadcrumbs" while on a trip that it will include in a future route to the same place in a mucho efficient way (cutting through university quads and the like).

Overall, though, I'm very impressed with the accuracy of Navigon as it does a great job of understanding intersections and where I may be standing even if I am still).

I'll be playing with it some more today and will report findings. I'll also be looking for a users' manual to see if I'm doing anything especially boneheaded (often the state of my intellect when my caffeine milligram per hour ratio is dangerously low).

Enjoy,
cdh




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