[macvoiceover] Re: Lion is frustrating in 3 areas

  • From: Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:53:22 -0400

Hi,

When I find myself bounced to the toolbar I just use a web command like VO 
command L or VO command H.  This will bring you to the html area and interact 
automatically.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:

> I haven't yet, but will.  I did find that if I stop interacting with the 
> toolbar (even though I didn't know I was interacting with it) that I am then 
> able to VO arrow to a place where it says HTML content, and then I can 
> interact with this to read the web page… it's quite a lot of extra steps 
> though.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Russell
> On 2011-10-10, at 10:09 PM, olivia norman wrote:
> 
>> Have you shared your feedback with Apple?  I'd suggest sending the 
>> accessibility crew an email outlining what you just wrote here.
>> I've experienced the safari issue with the tool bar, and sometimes I just 
>> use my machine with SL on it to navigate the web for the moment.
>> Olivia
>> 
>> "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life.", Steve 
>> Jobs
>> 
>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm becoming quite frustrated with Lion in the following 3 areas… perhaps 
>>> there's something I need to change in settings to get things to work 
>>> better, I'm not sure.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Spotlight search.  I loved Spotlight search in Snow Leopard.  I could 
>>> find anything, a file, email message, whatever.  All I needed to do was 
>>> press command - space, type in a word or two, arrow down a list of results, 
>>> press enter on the result and it would open.  In Lion, I press command, 
>>> space, type in a word or two, then, as I am arrowing down the list, I keep 
>>> getting interrupted by the message, "system has new window".  If I can 
>>> manage to get VO focused on the result I want, when I press enter on it, 
>>> sometimes it will open, but most of the time it takes me to some sort of 
>>> search dialogue box at which point I need to VO right arrow till I find a 
>>> list of results to navigate through… way more cumbersome in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> 2. Safari.  I find that quite often, instead of a website opening within 
>>> the page, I am placed in the toolbar, and quite often cannot get out of the 
>>> toolbar.  VO right arrow just keeps going around in a loop through the 
>>> toolbar, and tabbing does the same.
>>> 
>>> 3. Item chooser.  In Snow Leopard, I would quite often use the item chooser 
>>> to choose a piece of text I knew was on the page.  I would get a nice list 
>>> of results with the desired text in it, and I could just arrow down the 
>>> list, press enter on the one I wanted, and I would be taken right to that 
>>> spot on the web page.  Now, in Lion, 95% of the time I am presented with 
>>> results that have absolutely nothing to do with what I typed.
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else experiencing these frustrations?  Has something changed in 
>>> Lion that I'm not aware of?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.!
>>> 
>>> Thanks all,
>>> 
>>> Russell>
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