[macvoiceover] Re: Keynote

Well, It is not ready for prime time yet.  I will let every one know as soon as 
I know.
Keith Reedy
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On May 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Suzanne Erb wrote:

> That's wonderful news!  Can you write me off list in more detail?  Who should 
> I contact? Etc.?
> On May 4, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Keith Reedy wrote:
> 
>> Suzanne,
>> 
>> Some work is being done as we speak.  I just wondered if you had a magic 
>> bullet, grin!
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Keith Reedy
>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Suzanne Erb wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Keith,
>>> Unfortunately, I haven't figured out a way to do it, yet.  I have an old 
>>> Juliet Classic and I use a USB to parallel converter.  I tried Louis, but I 
>>> don't have a way to emboss yet.  I'd be really excited if anyone is doing 
>>> any development o a Braille translation program for the Mac that also can 
>>> work with old embossers like mine.
>>>     I anyone can put me in touch with people who are doing this sort of 
>>> research, I'd be extremely interested to test.
>>> Best,
>>> Suzanne
>>> On May 4, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Keith Reedy wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Suzanne,
>>>> 
>>>> Did I read that you have a way to print braille, if so, do you print 
>>>> braille with the mac?
>>>> Keith Reedy
>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 4, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Suzanne Erb wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> YOu will find that some tasks are  doable, while others are not--at 
>>>>> least, that's what I've found.  I'm going to discuss it with the 
>>>>> Accessibility folks next week.
>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>> On May 4, 2012, at 5:12 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will start working on my first KeyNote presentation on Monday. I will 
>>>>>> start trying to learn the program then.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 04/05/2012, at 13:10, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That makes sense to me.  But, has anyone used Keynote much?  I've been 
>>>>>>> able to figure out some things, but there are many things I have not 
>>>>>>> been able to do yet.
>>>>>>> I'm trying to do it for work, so my time is limited.
>>>>>>> Thanks so much.
>>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>> On May 3, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think the problem is, Voiceover doesn't recognize tables in the 
>>>>>>>> documents.  So the commands might be worthless in this case.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 3, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Marcy Weinberg <rhymingmom1@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There are table commands.  Are you using them?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 3, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you haven't yet told Apple accessibility about your need for 
>>>>>>>>> support of tables in word processor documents, please do so.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tables are well supported on the web, and while I know that's a 
>>>>>>>>> different animal to tame, it shows they can be clever enough to 
>>>>>>>>> figure it out when they put energy-into it. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This speaks to the need for VoiceOver to mature and evolve in 
>>>>>>>>> response to the needs of users, so users need to let 'em know what we 
>>>>>>>>> need.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2012-05-03, at 9:30 AM, Suzanne Erb wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've been wondering the same thing.  I thought it might just be my 
>>>>>>>>>> problem, and that I hadn't figured it out yet.  
>>>>>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ashley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering about the status of voiceover support for reading 
>>>>>>>>>>> tables in text (or other word-processing) documents or in 
>>>>>>>>>>> presentations. Unless I'm missing something, voiceover doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> appear to have any table support in these types of files. If this 
>>>>>>>>>>> is the case, perhaps this is something more of us should be 
>>>>>>>>>>> reporting to accessibility, before mountain lion gets released? It 
>>>>>>>>>>> may not be a feature everybody uses, but for a screen reader to not 
>>>>>>>>>>> support it in 2012 is just not productive.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ash
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