Neal, I'm certainly not Keith, and I'm not a moderator, but I would think like this. We're all using VoiceOver, so any questions that we have concerning the Mac on this list are going to inevitably involve VoiceOver. Just my $.02 worth
On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Neal Ewers wrote:
Keith, Thanks, I understand what you are trying to do and my question was not meant to be negative in any way, but this does raise a more general issue. Some of the questions people ask on this list have as much to do with learning the Mac as they do with the specifics of VoiceOver. Given that many of us are on this Mac learning curve, would you suggest that we find another list on which to ask more general Mac questions? If so, canyou direct me to such a list?Please understand, I am not trying to be picky here, I am, however, tryingto give you what you want, but that requires asking a few questions. Neal -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:58 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: IMPORTANT! FROM THE LIST ADMIN, off topic messages, please read! Hi Neal, As for me, I would think that this is a Voiceover question.Neal, I don't want to drive this thing in to the ground, I am just trying toget us all to filter our messages before they go out on the list, ok? Keith Reedy On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Neal Ewers wrote:Hi Keith. It seems to me that, especially for beginners like myself,it is sometimes hard to know if you are asking a VoiceOver question asapposed to a general Mac question. Take my following post for example. Hi all, Do I just have a slow computer? On the BCT page, if I presscontrol option command H to go to headers, it takes about 5 seconds toget to each header. When I try to bring up a link list, it takesabout 30 seconds. Anyone else have this problem? I'm guessing my MacMini is not the fastest kid on the planet? Thanks. And thanks for the help on finding the preferences. Neal Now, I have no clue if this is caused by VoiceOver, or if it is a general Mac question. I would certainly agree that it doesn't teach people about using VoiceOver directly, but if there are problems regarding slow- downs that perhaps result when using VoiceOver, this is, I think, a question that VoiceOver users need to know. So, tell me where the thin line is here and I will be happy to abide. Thanks for dealing with this issue. Neal -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:41 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] IMPORTANT! FROM THE LIST ADMIN, off topic messages, please read! Hi folks, Boy, I hate to write these kind of messages. Last week we had several hundred messages come over the list and several of them according to the list guidelines were off topic. First of all, lets take a look at what we are trying to do with this list and that is to learn and USE Voiceover with the MAC, so when you write your message, ask your self, does this have anything to do with learning and using Voiceover with the MAC? If it does not, please put the letters "OT" for offtopic, in the subject line, so that the rest of us can choose to read it or not. Folks, please help me with this. This list has become a great place to learn about Voiceover, but, we can't learn with helpful messages intermixed with off topic messages. This list will soon reach 100 members and we can be a help to many if we will just stay with in the guidelines. Thank you so much. Keith Reedy, list adminClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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