[macvoiceover] Re: Hi

Keith,
I didn't get to answering your questions about Adium the other day. Sorry!
Adium will not do IRC, and the "Chat Transcripts Viewer" is quite easy to use!
If you ever miss an IM from someone, assuming you don't already have the viewer open, press the "Transcripts" button, on the toolbar, of that person's IM window. The viewer will open, and their chat text should be displayed. If not, move the VO Cursor, til you hear "Table", interract with it, and arrow up, or down, til you hear their screen name (should be at the top, or near the top, of the list, for the most recent IM session), then stop interracting with it, arrow right to the "text", interract with that, go to the last item, and arrow back up to hear the IM(s) you've missed.
If you are in the habit of not closing IM windows, after chatting, as I often do, you really don't need to close the viewer - just need to select their name, in the table, then read the text. If you do close chat windows, each time a chat ends, though, you really should close the viewer, go to their window, press the "Transcript" button, select their name in the table, then, read the text. I've found, not doing things this way, you can't read the most recent IM someone sends you.
I know this is a real pain-in-the-butt solution, but it allows you to read those missed messages! 

HTH!

Ron


On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Keith Reedy wrote:


Ron,

2 questions,
1: can you use IRC with this program?
2: How hard is it to use the "chat transcripts viewer"?

Thanks.

Keith


On Apr 12, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Ron J. wrote:


Hi everyone!
Fire is a good client, and I have used it for the better part of the last two years. I'm no longer using it, as it is no longer in development - in fact, a couple of the developers from the Fire team, jumped ship, and are now working to develop Adium X.
Adium X is a multi-protocol IM client, which supports AIM, MSN, Yahoo!, ICQ, and several others, including some Fire didn't support. It has a number of accessibility issues, but I think the developers are committed to fixing these. I say this because, when I went to http://www.versiontracker.com/, did a search for Adium, then clicked on its link, under "What's New In This Version", I actually noticed reference to VO (when I initially downloaded the previous version, but not this one)! Still, it had been mentioned, and that's the first time I'd *ever* seen that on the info about a program on VersionTracker!
Unlike Fire, Adium will speak the IMs as you receive them, (this needs to be set up, in preferences, first), but if you miss one, you'll need to use the "Chat Transcripts Viewer" to read it. Also, you may need some assistance setting up the events, under the "Events" tab, in preferences, as its an outline, and not totally accessible. That said, Adium works quite well, and I'd at least give it a try!
I'd also strongly recommend sending the Adium team feedback, as I really do believe these folks are committed to making Adium as accessible as possible! 

HTH?

Ron

On Apr 12, 2007, at 8:09 AM, John W. Hess wrote:


Fire is a very good client that will do MSN as well as IM.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:38 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Hi



David, Hannah's friend Chris again.
I had a thought about what you wrote yesterday about MSN being bearly usable on the Mac; do you mean the programme MSN Messenger for Mac? In that case, then yes I'd agree with you, but my initial thoughts were that you perhaps didn't know that you can set up an MSN account using 
IChat, but obviously I was proved wrong.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:45:54 -0400, "David Poehlman"
<david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:

via IChat yes, but that is not what I said.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:45 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Hi


David, this is Hannah's friend Chris here.
I appreciate that you may not realize this, but actually it is possible to use MSN on the Mac via IChat. You can do this by creating a Jabba account and using that account to connect to the MSN service. Thought 
I'd correct you here. Thanks.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:32:51 -0400, "David Poehlman"
<david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Hi Hanna,
>
> Besides msn which will be bearly usable on the Mac, what other
> specific apps are you using? There is somewhat of a learning curve to > gaing usage of OS x, but you can also put windows on any new Mac so if > you need to move gradually, you can do that. My concern is that you > not loose the functionality you now enjoy for too long a time if at > all. 
>
> On Apr 11, 2007, at 2:31 AM, Hannah Day wrote:
>
> David, I generally use the computer to write documents using a Word > Processor, send and receive e-mails both using an e-mail client and a 
> web browser, and chat to friends on MSN. Hope that helps.
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:05:56 -0400, "David Poehlman"
> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > Hi Hannah,
> >
> > You have obviously been using a computer for a while now. What kinds > > of things do you do with a computer and what software do you use? > > The > > answers to these questions can help with your decision. Also, there 
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> > http://www.apple.com/accessability
> > that provides information about VoiceOver and the universal access 
> > properties of the os.
> >
> > If possible, you might want to take an opportunity to spend some time > > with a Mac beffore investing in one. Take your time if you have > > time. 
> >
> > I was a windows user for many years and though I still use windows > > from time to time for various reasons, my platform of choice is now 
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> > On Apr 10, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Hannah Day wrote:
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> > Windows
> > problems I face on my laptop I am considering switching. My first 
> > query
> > is compared to Windows, how easy is it to learn, in terms of those 
> > with
> > learning disabilities, to use a mac and VoiceOver? Thanks, and I look 
> > forward to hearing from you. From Hannah
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