Ah! Now that, I understand. lol. I agree with you though, I don't think it should interact automatically. Ricardo Walker rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Oct 29, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Ian Edwards wrote: > Yup Ricardo, I want to be interacting with the messages table, it's when Mail > isn't interaction but doesn't tell me that I get frustrated. > > Ian > > On 2011-10-28, at 5:53 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> right, >> >> in the case of Mail, I would think most times you will want to get to the >> top of the message table and not the toolbar anyway, no? >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Ian Edwards wrote: >> >>> Except, as noted in a previous thread regarding navigating in the in-box, >>> navigation is effected by whether or not you're interacting with the >>> messages table. Intearact with the messages table and VO shift home takes >>> you to the top of the in-box. If not interacting, it doesn't. Not the >>> biggest deal, but it's a hassle to have this happen. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> On 2011-10-27, at 11:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Ideal is pretty subjective, no? lol. Some people don't mind the fact >>>> they you end up interacting with the table. I personally don't prefer >>>> this but, I don't see it as any sort of hinderance though. Interacting >>>> with the table doesn't seem to effect the way one navigates at least. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx >>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Ian Edwards wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yup, using VO J to jump back and forth from message table to message >>>>> text, as outlined in the VoiceOver getting started guide. >>>>> >>>>> So if the getting started guide doesn't have the ideal way to use Mail, >>>>> where can a guy turn for a how to? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Ian >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:29 PM >>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Different voices when interacting? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I don't believe you can assign a voice to this. But I think your >>>>> interacting with the table because of the method your using to navigate >>>>> to the table. If my guess is correct, your either tabbing or pressing VO >>>>> J, right? >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Ian Edwards wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to have Voiceover's voice change change when you're >>>>>> interacting with something? I'm thinking specifically of the messages >>>>>> table in Mail, as I can't figure out why sometimes I'm interacting with >>>>>> it and sometimes not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> >>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >