Sunflower OK, I even have stumped Apple Care with this one. I got voice over running obviously. I go to the safri app and bring it up. I then go, say to acbradio.org cmd+l www.acbradio.org then press enter. Page loads and comes up fine. I then vo keys_down arrow until I hear html content. I interact with the html content. I start vo keys down arrowing. The page renders flawlessly... Until... I reach where it says announcements. I then vo down arrow again, and it jumps me back wayyyyy! up the page to content. If I vo keys down again, I get right back at the top: home, listen, acb radio blog, etc. etc. and what not. If I then keep vo down arrowing it jumps again! I do not like reading pages with a vo A. I prefer going line by line. is this not doable? I also find sometimes if I vo down arrow it only reads half of the page then if i keep vo down arroing, eventually, it says forward button and what not. So, I kind of have to wonder, as I am vo down arrowing, is the physical web page not scrolling and being tracked with the vo cursor? Yes I do have cursor tracking turned on. As for my other question I asked earlier this morning about ITunes. i had a senior moment, then the light bulb inspiration hit me. Is it possible that the reason that I cannot change the rate is because that was a remote library on my windows system which is running a shared library which I am accessing through the Mac? I never even thought a that, but being the hysical library's not on my mac, could that be why? should I maybe rate it with my windows machine, then? see? Chris.