[macvoiceover] Re: Apple Mail query again.

  • From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:19:58 -0400

Hi Dave,

This should work, I'll look into it.  it may be a mouse only trick.  try if 
you have a mouse can't remember what ya got, a track pad?  in any case, if a 
track pad, hold control and click while sitting on the date column and see 
if you get a menu.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:44 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Mail query again.


HI Dave,

I haven't been able to get this to work as yet.  When you say click in the
date area, do you mean open up the message and find the date and click or do
you mean interacting with the message list and navigating your way to a date
column and clicking?  I have tried both and I bring mouse to voice over
cursor with vo-command f5 then I do a vo+shift+space to mouse click on the
date.  Nothing happens as yet.  Thanks again for your help,

David Truong

EMail and Messenger:
davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Skype:  blindboxer1967

-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 11:13 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Mail query again.

Hi Dave,

I just wrote this on a different thread but will put it here for the sake of

completness.  just mouse click at the top of the date column wher the date
resides and it should flip the sort order.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:56 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Apple Mail query again.


Hi Everyone,

Well unfortunately, I haven't found an alternative to Apple Mail.  It's a
pity as I'm loving this Mac Pro but can't use it for mail the way I want it.
I've tried Eudora 8 beta for the Mac, no go, bloody inaccessible for sure.
Just for an example, when I opened up the Eudora application to see how
accessible it would be, it just brought up a dialogue and there was nothing
to be accessed in that.  Even the good old item chooser didn't give
anything.  The menus did no good as most stuff that would be useful was
dimmed.  Ah well, that's Eudora gone.  Then I tried thunderbird, equally
just as inaccessible.  I opened that up only to be shown a dialogue box with
some sort of a scroll bar and no matter how much ai explored with the vo nav
commands, that's all I got.  I used the item chooser and it told me 36 items
in the list but guess what, they were all scroll bars and dimmed to boot.
How strange.  So it looks like Apple mail has to be my Email program.  So,
my query is, can Apple mail show messages where the most recent message is
at the top of the message list rather than at the bottom of the message
list?  I've looked in all of the options that I know of and menus etc but I
can't find any preference item which would allow me to change the default
behaviour of the most recent message being shown at the bottom of the
message list.  That of course doesn't mean this can't be configured smile.
So if you know please let me know.  I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

David Truong

EMail and Messenger:
davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Skype:  blindboxer1967

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