[macvoiceover] Re: About getting help: for David Weston

  • From: Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 06:57:00 -0400

Hi David,
Depending on how your function keys are set up, you might have to hit that key 
along with the other keys in order to get the response you want.
Suzanne
On Jul 28, 2011, at 3:58 AM, David Weston wrote:

> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> Thank you for your email. I have tried VO/Command F8 and nothing happened. Am 
> I doing something wrong?
> David Weston. 
> On 27 Jul 2011, at 13:15, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote:
> 
>> 
>> it can be hard to learn a new opperating system. However, if you haven't 
>> already done this, you need to decide what resources you are are going to 
>> use for help. People on the list will try to help you and, in fact, despite 
>> the fact that you said you had no replies to your requests for help, I found 
>> several when I checked the list archives, so you may want to make sure you 
>> are getting all of your email. But you won't learn the whole opperating 
>> system just by writing to the list. So use the suggestions that Keith and 
>> Suzanne have sent you. To access a link in mail, do ctrl-option-space on the 
>> link but if that doesn't work you can always copy and paste the link or if 
>> worst comes to worst, listen to it and type it into voiceover by hand. If 
>> nothing else works, you can even type in the google field; for instance 
>> typing i can work this thing in google does bring up the icanworkthisthing 
>> website. This isn't at all suggest that you shouldn't post to the list; I'm 
>> just letting you know that there are other alternatives you can use instead 
>> of getting frustrated as you wait for reponses that either don't come or 
>> don't seem to answer your question. Remember also that you have help right 
>> within your system by using control-option-h and selecting from the menu. 
>> when you learned windows you must have had either a teacher or astrategy for 
>> learning; you may already have this also for the Mac, but if not, you must 
>> either find a teacher or strategies for learning or you will find yourself 
>> constantly comparing your Mac experience, which is new, to your Windows 
>> experience, which is familiar, and you will eventually give up on the Mac.
>> 
>> Besides learning voiceover, you also just need to learn basic Mac concepts. 
>> Some of this is in the voiceover getting started manual and maybe others can 
>> post links or resources that might help with this. Sometimes reading 
>> material not written for the blind user takes some translation because you 
>> will be told to "click on" things or "drag and drop" items or do other 
>> things for which you will have to learn the accessible alternative, but you 
>> do need to learn the basic concepts of using applications and performing 
>> tasks on the Mac.
>> 
>> Also remember that the response you get to questions will be variable 
>> because people on this list are busy doing other things and many right now 
>> are busy getting adjusted to the new Lion OS. But usually someone does 
>> eventually reply, and if not, it's all right to wait a while and then post 
>> your question again. But the best way of keeping frustration to a minimum is 
>> to find resources for help in addition to the list, which you already may 
>> have done, but because you seem frustrated I just am reminding you. Remember 
>> that the voiceover help menu and help within your applications and the 
>> voiceover getting started guide and Google are great resources, and they are 
>> resources that don't go to bed or get busy doing other things, as people 
>> unfortunately do!!! Also don't forget the voiceover quickstart tutorial 
>> (control-option-command-f8) which you probably have already used but which 
>> does show you the basic techniques used in running voiceover.
>> 
>> I'm not at all writing this to be condescending or lecturing or to suggest 
>> that you shouldn't post here. I just believe that if you will make sure you 
>> use all the resources available to you, you will be much more likely to have 
>> a positive and productive experience with your Mac. Your Mac is not a 
>> Windows machine; it may eventually become your system of choice or you may 
>> find that you prefer doing some things on the mac and some on your Windows 
>> computer. Either way, your Mac does have a lot to offer once you get over 
>> the hump of learning the basics of your new system.
>> 
>> If you haven't yet found the answer to your dashboard question: when in 
>> dashboard do control-option-f2 twice and you will be in the dashboard menu; 
>> arrow down to the widget bar and right-arrow or hit enter and you will see 
>> your list of widgets. In some cases, the first time I did this i found no 
>> items but if I hit escape and repeated the process, my list of widgets was 
>> there. The icanworkthisthing website does have an article on dashboard use.
>> Hth.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> "Let the words of my mouth,
>> and the meditation of my heart,
>> be acceptable in thy sight,
>> O LORD, my strength and my Redeemer."
>> 
>> (Psalm 19:14: Bible KJV)
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