OK david, I'll give you number too. and the read all feature of vo--a which previously would not work seems to be a great alternative. the one thing I didn't miss when moving to the mac was the web page loading and speaking how many headers, how many tables etc and then it proceeding to read the page in a very questionable order. vo--a and vo--b are great implements in this version but just kinda feel like it's a step back for voice over. it's more playing into the holding hands of windows screen reader than the intuition that made me fall in love with voice over and the mac. ;) like I said, my opinion. no one has to agree or disagree. I'm sure there are things others love and I hate and vice versa. :) was just sharing :)
On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:29 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
Hi marie,There are a couple of exceptions to the first two but you are 100 percent dead on with number three which as you say, we've already discussed.This is an excellent topic for the vo list because it gets to the heart of vo use.you state in part: "1. automatic reading of a webpage.".This can be handy for folk who read a lot of long text pages and for those with limitted mobility etcetera."2. voice over hints. I know what to do in a text area, especially when it already says edit text." This is actually a good feature because there are some situations where it is not intuitive to the new user. It took me back a bit but I can see its usefullness.Whether you are a new computer user or new to the mac, surely, there is some potential benefit to the two above features.On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:well, this is purely my opinion but 3 features that horribly remind me of windows are as follows.1. automatic reading of a webpage.2. voice over hints. I know what to do in a text area, especially when it already says edit text. 3. insertion point. this has been discussed, it's counter intuitive and doesn't teach the vi community how it would look to sighties.all I can say is I'm so glad these features are optional. they are just horrific and no one can tell me that it will help progression from windows to mac. I didn't have these features and I am so glad I did. mac is not windows, when will people realise this.overall vo rocks even more in this version, and I am grateful to apple for giving us a choice. really glad.Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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