[mac4theblind] Re: when checking Voiceover "to be controlled by apple scripts", are there any that come with it by default?

  • From: Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:30:42 +0000

Hi John, that's alright. I've sorted it out now. 
Don't worry about not forgetting a step or two. After all we all can't be 
perfect at the end of the day! 

Thanks for all your help from getting your script to setting it up!

Daniel  
On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:06, John Panarese wrote:

>    That's my fault, Daniel.  I missed that step in explaining the creation of 
> the shortcut.  My apologies.  That's what happens sometimes when you are 
> flying through messages and firing off responses in succession.
> 
>    You need to VO-space on the, add, button in keyboard commander in the 
> table of commands to be able to add another one.  The edit box will only 
> accept single letter or shifted letter commands because this is what is used 
> with the right or left option key.  Then, you must go to the menu and 
> VO-space on it to choose the associated command for the shortcut letter.  You 
> can expand the list from the menu with the right arrow like in any typical 
> menu.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
> 
>> Good news John, I have now successfully created and now have the battery 
>> script running! 
>> Funny when you said about the script being downloaded and it wasn't till 
>> after I sent my previous email asking for help that I checked the download 
>> folder and found it there. But help was still needed because after I placed 
>> it into the script folder tried the command didn't work then placed it into 
>> the Voiceover folder it still didn't work. So what did I do your wondering. 
>> Well I had a closer look at the scripts that were already created and 
>> interacted with them. This didn't get me any further so I went to the add 
>> button and found a blank added to the list. So I interacted with that one 
>> and vo right. Now this is the funny part. As I was exploring what was here I 
>> completely ignored the "menu button". Talk about being intimidated which by 
>> the way all your advice is encouraging. So anyway after I VO spaced on that 
>> button everything else slotted into place. Find the script add it and the 
>> only thing I didn't know was the blank. So I tried calling it "Battery 
>> Status". Then got a dialog box saying only one letter will do. So that was 
>> the last part of the puzzle just called it B and bang! the script/keystroke 
>> worked! 
>> 
>> I just wanted to share my experience with you and everyone else who might 
>> read this post because in my case with your feedback explaining this and 
>> that at times its just one little step I ignored and upon remembering what 
>> it was, everything else was easy. I guess what I'm trying to say is know 
>> your screenreader well and listen to every detail it gives you so you don't 
>> make any mistakes. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Daniel                    
>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 18:55, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>   The important thing is not to get overwhelmed.  Learning the Mac is like 
>>> any other new task.  It's a process that you have to take at your own pace.
>>> 
>>>   I would try to learn some VoiceOver basics first.  Use the quick start 
>>> guide with control-option-command-F8 and go through that entirely to get 
>>> comfortable with VoiceOver basics.
>>> 
>>>   Once you do that, make your goals small at first.  Pick an application to 
>>> start with, like Mail or Text Edit, and try to get familiar with it using 
>>> what you have learned with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>>   Study the material that is on my website and in many other places and 
>>> listen to the podcasts that are available.  Vision Australia is a good 
>>> place to start, as well as those on the Blind Cool Tech website.  I have 
>>> some Lion basics demonstrations in my demonstrations section.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Just keep in mind that every little battle you win is one step in the 
>>> right direction.  Just don't let yourself get flustered.  If you start to 
>>> feel frustrated, walk away from the Mac for a time and come back when you 
>>> clear your mind.
>>> 
>>> If you are a Windows user, do your best to separate your thinking from the 
>>> Windows screen reader way of doing things.  Yes, if similar concepts help 
>>> you get things straight in your mind, that's fine, but don't think 
>>> VoiceOver will or should act like JAWS or Window-Eyes and that the Mac OS 
>>> is like Windows.  This attachment will only make the learning process more 
>>> difficult and slow your progress significantly.  Trust me on that, as I was 
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Catnip wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh God!  I'm reading all your tips, tricks and problems and still sitting 
>>>> here with the OSX lion and have no idea how or where to start.  So just 
>>>> plunge in?  Would that be your suggestion?
>>>> 
>>>> PEOPLE WHO HATE CATS WILL BE REBORN AS MICE! 
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