I can initiate the quick start with command-vo keys. if you are having trouble using modifiers, I suggest you look in system preferences> keyboard and check the use all function keys as standard function keys. Also, I have found that on my system, only one command key works to start the vo tutorial. On Aug 16, 2012, at 5:23 AM, <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thank you John, adding the 4th key in the row next to the spacebar did the trick! You would think that since this appears to be the default now, that it would indicate that it was part of the keyboard combination listed in the VO help menu. Oh well, it's sorted now. Thanks again! Scott ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Jonnie Appleseed With His Hands-On Technolog(eye)s touching the internet Reducing Technology's disabilities One Byte At a time