[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again

    Please keep us posted.  It is certainly a very strange issue.

Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT

On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Well we'll see. It appears that my reinstall worked. I have no earthly idea 
> what gets corrupted when the disk gets full but I gues when I get my external 
> hd I won't have that problem lol!
> 
> Take care.
> On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:51 AM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>   I don't think there were any announced VoiceOver improvements or additions 
>> in the latest OS upgrade.  I don't think we will see anything that major 
>> until Lion is released in the summer.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> A bit. everything seems a bit more snapper and there were I believe some 
>>> security holes fixed as usual. I don't see any access improvements like the 
>>> voice over hands not beeing fixed.
>>> Sarah Alawami
>>> 
>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact 
>>> me my info is below.
>>> 
>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>> 
>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:11 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Was there any improvements with the OS upgrade?  Just out of curiosity.
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well I tried a restore and that failed. the restore went ok but  my mail 
>>>>> i still slow my finder seems to be ok but I don't want to reinstall mail. 
>>>>> I will though fi that's what it takes. Blah. I just don't see why it is 
>>>>> not happening in the other account just this one. OH well. I'll try a 
>>>>> reinstall this week and see if that helps. I know it will beu why my 
>>>>> computer acts like that when my start up disk is full and why it 
>>>>> continues when it is not is a mystery. Actually I have someone else who 
>>>>> is experiencing the same isue as well his start up disk got full and he 
>>>>> emptied it and now it is acting  like mine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 3:09 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you have an Apple Store nearby?  It might be worth a trip there.  
>>>>>> Maybe, sitting down with someone and showing them what you are 
>>>>>> experiencing would help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> except now I have 120gb free and  tha'ts plenty of space for my system 
>>>>>>> to do what it needs to so something else is deeper in the problem. I 
>>>>>>> don't know and I  get the feelign this apple superviser is off his 
>>>>>>> rocker by just a bit.
>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:45 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It just doesn't make sense that one user account would have issues 
>>>>>>>> over another.  Obviously, anything is possible in the world of 
>>>>>>>> computers, but there has to be some reason for this.  A disk becoming 
>>>>>>>> full should, as I said, become an issue when you are topping it out 
>>>>>>>> and there isn't enough room for the system to perform its various 
>>>>>>>> tasks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No I have all of the programs I usually install and all went well 
>>>>>>>>> until my start up disk went full. I hve about 120 gigs free as of now 
>>>>>>>>> and it is still doing that. In fact my mail yesterday suddenly 
>>>>>>>>> crashed and quit and finder went crazy but in the other account it 
>>>>>>>>> went smooth.
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:43 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That's interesting.  Why would another account not be a problem?  It 
>>>>>>>>>> might be something installed, I guess.  Please keep us posted.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No there solution for now was to create a test account with admin 
>>>>>>>>>>> rights. that seems to be goign bery well and very smooth except I 
>>>>>>>>>>> can't access my timke machine to get at my main account and i can't 
>>>>>>>>>>> get at my main account while loged in to my test admin account. it 
>>>>>>>>>>> seels more stable to. no slow downs of finder and mail.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So you just reinstalled again?  Was that their solution?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WellI tested and am still testing in my new account and it seems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run a lot faster and I've run it for hours with out the  slow 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downs. so I don't know what to do from here. I don't know what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the apple adviser will suggest but i should not need to  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstall every time my start up disk gets full which it will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> until I get myself an external drive in about a month..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact me my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:27 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so this more strongly leads me to believe that this might be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hardware issue.  If you have tried installing the OS again, it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could only be that.  However, if you have your material all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backed up and have not done a reinstall, I'd do a complete wipe 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then install the OS from scratch.  After that, move your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeha i tried searching google but there were snobish forum 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replies talkign about osx and how it really did not need to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained and all of them said to do repair permitions. I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been searching this for months and no luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, speak to an Apple tech support person or do some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious searching on Google.  Maybe, on of the Mac forums 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have a good suggestion.  Also, on the Apple website, do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a search in support to find out if there are any knowledge 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base articles of relevance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a time in mail,  my mail acts like it  wants to freeze. it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between 1 and 2 seconds  or maybe a bit more until I hear the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing window soundd. and even vo right arrowing is causing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  mail or finder to be busy in list mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.  To me, it should not be behaving like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow to a crawl. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowing down like that.  Honestly, I am out of ideas.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is probably something obvious that is being missed, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I would really contact the local Apple Store or call 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple.  How old is this machine?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also ran a repair disk and an disk utility and no go. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also repaired permitions. it sucks tha tonly files under 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 mb are defraged. My work has to have me work with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files that are hundreds of mb big and sometimes even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about a gig for a whole project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah.  When all else fails, a call to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple support or a visit to an Apple Store is always an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong  but for those 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that need something else it's a good good tool. I'll 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try onyx and see if it fixes it. Maybe the third time 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be a chrm. I'm frustrated by tghis!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a good application.  There are utilities in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there worth running and scheduling.  Clearing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cache and such.  I use Cocktail, but it's the same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install disk for the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowly but this is getting rediculous. I have not yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run permitions again. well I did a few weeks ago but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to get back inthe habit. I wonder what onyx 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will do for me lol! that is a pretty good suite of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff to fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are not using that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check from Utilities off of your install disk.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, check activity monitor to see if anything is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running that you are not aware of.  Check to see if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have anything starting up with the system in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your login area of system preferences under 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accounts.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use it. I have 4 gigs of ram on this thing and I do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> empty my trash. the last time I repaired permitions 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it worked, for about 10 minutes and then it  went 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to slowness. that was a few months ago when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first.  See 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that helps.  Also, make sure you don't have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything eating your processor power.  It's not as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big a deal on a Mac, but how much RAM to you have? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Also, make sure you empty the trash and you don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have open widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for  other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people that are huge up to 3 or 4 gigs in size.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OH fun! but yeah this is ridiculous. I thought 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  it would have defraged itself by now but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'l be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material.  Yes, an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> external drive to back it all up and also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminating anything not important.  I have had 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my MBP for two years and I haven't filled forty 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really have a lot of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of John Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive?  How did you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill it up so much?  A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until you have really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and before then everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail mainly. Now  I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOICEOVER TRAINING AND 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I clear at least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever in rendering tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode in finder. How can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to go that rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with mid terms coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space but the darned thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendering the table for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info. If you need to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
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> Sarah Alawami
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> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me 
> my info is below.
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> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
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> website: http://music.marrie.org
> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
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