[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again

  • From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:35:00 -0700

Well we'll see. It appears that my reinstall worked. I have no earthly idea 
what gets corrupted when the disk gets full but I gues when I get my external 
hd I won't have that problem lol!

Take care.
On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:51 AM, John Panarese wrote:

>    I don't think there were any announced VoiceOver improvements or additions 
> in the latest OS upgrade.  I don't think we will see anything that major 
> until Lion is released in the summer.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> On Mar 23, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> A bit. everything seems a bit more snapper and there were I believe some 
>> security holes fixed as usual. I don't see any access improvements like the 
>> voice over hands not beeing fixed.
>> Sarah Alawami
>> 
>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me 
>> my info is below.
>> 
>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:11 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>  Was there any improvements with the OS upgrade?  Just out of curiosity.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well I tried a restore and that failed. the restore went ok but  my mail i 
>>>> still slow my finder seems to be ok but I don't want to reinstall mail. I 
>>>> will though fi that's what it takes. Blah. I just don't see why it is not 
>>>> happening in the other account just this one. OH well. I'll try a 
>>>> reinstall this week and see if that helps. I know it will beu why my 
>>>> computer acts like that when my start up disk is full and why it continues 
>>>> when it is not is a mystery. Actually I have someone else who is 
>>>> experiencing the same isue as well his start up disk got full and he 
>>>> emptied it and now it is acting  like mine.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 3:09 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Do you have an Apple Store nearby?  It might be worth a trip there.  
>>>>> Maybe, sitting down with someone and showing them what you are 
>>>>> experiencing would help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> except now I have 120gb free and  tha'ts plenty of space for my system 
>>>>>> to do what it needs to so something else is deeper in the problem. I 
>>>>>> don't know and I  get the feelign this apple superviser is off his 
>>>>>> rocker by just a bit.
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:45 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It just doesn't make sense that one user account would have issues over 
>>>>>>> another.  Obviously, anything is possible in the world of computers, 
>>>>>>> but there has to be some reason for this.  A disk becoming full should, 
>>>>>>> as I said, become an issue when you are topping it out and there isn't 
>>>>>>> enough room for the system to perform its various tasks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No I have all of the programs I usually install and all went well 
>>>>>>>> until my start up disk went full. I hve about 120 gigs free as of now 
>>>>>>>> and it is still doing that. In fact my mail yesterday suddenly crashed 
>>>>>>>> and quit and finder went crazy but in the other account it went smooth.
>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:43 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That's interesting.  Why would another account not be a problem?  It 
>>>>>>>>> might be something installed, I guess.  Please keep us posted.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No there solution for now was to create a test account with admin 
>>>>>>>>>> rights. that seems to be goign bery well and very smooth except I 
>>>>>>>>>> can't access my timke machine to get at my main account and i can't 
>>>>>>>>>> get at my main account while loged in to my test admin account. it 
>>>>>>>>>> seels more stable to. no slow downs of finder and mail.
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So you just reinstalled again?  Was that their solution?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> WellI tested and am still testing in my new account and it seems 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to run a lot faster and I've run it for hours with out the  slow 
>>>>>>>>>>>> downs. so I don't know what to do from here. I don't know what the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> apple adviser will suggest but i should not need to  reinstall 
>>>>>>>>>>>> every time my start up disk gets full which it will until I get 
>>>>>>>>>>>> myself an external drive in about a month..
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> contact me my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:27 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so this more strongly leads me to believe that this might be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hardware issue.  If you have tried installing the OS again, it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could only be that.  However, if you have your material all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> backed up and have not done a reinstall, I'd do a complete wipe 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then install the OS from scratch.  After that, move your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeha i tried searching google but there were snobish forum 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replies talkign about osx and how it really did not need to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained and all of them said to do repair permitions. I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been searching this for months and no luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, speak to an Apple tech support person or do some serious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searching on Google.  Maybe, on of the Mac forums might have a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good suggestion.  Also, on the Apple website, do a search in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support to find out if there are any knowledge base articles of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time in mail,  my mail acts like it  wants to freeze. it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between 1 and 2 seconds  or maybe a bit more until I hear the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing window soundd. and even vo right arrowing is causing  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail or finder to be busy in list mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.  To me, it should not be behaving like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow to a crawl. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowing down like that.  Honestly, I am out of ideas.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is probably something obvious that is being missed, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I would really contact the local Apple Store or call 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple.  How old is this machine?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also ran a repair disk and an disk utility and no go. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also repaired permitions. it sucks tha tonly files under 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 mb are defraged. My work has to have me work with files 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are hundreds of mb big and sometimes even about a gig 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a whole project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah.  When all else fails, a call to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple support or a visit to an Apple Store is always an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong  but for those 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that need something else it's a good good tool. I'll try 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onyx and see if it fixes it. Maybe the third time will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a chrm. I'm frustrated by tghis!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a good application.  There are utilities in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there worth running and scheduling.  Clearing the cache 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and such.  I use Cocktail, but it's the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install disk for the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowly but this is getting rediculous. I have not yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run permitions again. well I did a few weeks ago but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to get back inthe habit. I wonder what onyx will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do for me lol! that is a pretty good suite of stuff to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are not using that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions check 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Utilities off of your install disk.  Also, check 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activity monitor to see if anything is running that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not aware of.  Check to see if you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything starting up with the system in your login 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area of system preferences under Accounts.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to use 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. I have 4 gigs of ram on this thing and I do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> empty my trash. the last time I repaired permitions 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it worked, for about 10 minutes and then it  went 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to slowness. that was a few months ago when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first.  See 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that helps.  Also, make sure you don't have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything eating your processor power.  It's not as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big a deal on a Mac, but how much RAM to you have?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure you empty the trash and you don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have open widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for  other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people that are huge up to 3 or 4 gigs in size.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OH fun! but yeah this is ridiculous. I thought 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  it would have defraged itself by now but I'l 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material.  Yes, an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> external drive to back it all up and also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminating anything not important.  I have had 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my MBP for two years and I haven't filled forty 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really have a lot of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of John Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive?  How did you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill it up so much?  A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until you have really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and before then everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and mail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mainly. Now  I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOICEOVER TRAINING AND 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I clear at least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever in rendering tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list mode 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in finder. How can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to go that rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with mid terms coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of space 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the darned thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendering the table for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info. If you need to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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Sarah Alawami

If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my 
info is below.

MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx

website: http://music.marrie.org
Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125


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