[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
- From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:43:15 -0400
That's interesting. Why would another account not be a problem? It might
be something installed, I guess. Please keep us posted.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> No there solution for now was to create a test account with admin rights.
> that seems to be goign bery well and very smooth except I can't access my
> timke machine to get at my main account and i can't get at my main account
> while loged in to my test admin account. it seels more stable to. no slow
> downs of finder and mail.
> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>
>> So you just reinstalled again? Was that their solution?
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>
>>> WellI tested and am still testing in my new account and it seems to run a
>>> lot faster and I've run it for hours with out the slow downs. so I don't
>>> know what to do from here. I don't know what the apple adviser will suggest
>>> but i should not need to reinstall every time my start up disk gets full
>>> which it will until I get myself an external drive in about a month..
>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>
>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to
>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact
>>> me my info is below.
>>>
>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:27 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so this more strongly leads me to believe that this might be a
>>>> hardware issue. If you have tried installing the OS again, it could only
>>>> be that. However, if you have your material all backed up and have not
>>>> done a reinstall, I'd do a complete wipe and then install the OS from
>>>> scratch. After that, move your stuff over.
>>>>
>>>> Take Care
>>>>
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yeha i tried searching google but there were snobish forum replies
>>>>> talkign about osx and how it really did not need to be maintained and all
>>>>> of them said to do repair permitions. I've been searching this for months
>>>>> and no luck.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, speak to an Apple tech support person or do some serious
>>>>>> searching on Google. Maybe, on of the Mac forums might have a good
>>>>>> suggestion. Also, on the Apple website, do a search in support to find
>>>>>> out if there are any knowledge base articles of relevance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at a time in
>>>>>>> mail, my mail acts like it wants to freeze. it is between 1 and 2
>>>>>>> seconds or maybe a bit more until I hear the changing window soundd.
>>>>>>> and even vo right arrowing is causing mail or finder to be busy in
>>>>>>> list mode.
>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple support. To me,
>>>>>>>> it should not be behaving like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to slow to a
>>>>>>>>> crawl.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be slowing
>>>>>>>>>> down like that. Honestly, I am out of ideas. There is probably
>>>>>>>>>> something obvious that is being missed, but I would really contact
>>>>>>>>>> the local Apple Store or call Apple. How old is this machine?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I also ran a
>>>>>>>>>>> repair disk and an disk utility and no go. I also repaired
>>>>>>>>>>> permitions. it sucks tha tonly files under 20 mb are defraged. My
>>>>>>>>>>> work has to have me work with files that are hundreds of mb big and
>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes even about a gig for a whole project.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah. When all else fails, a call to Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>> support or a visit to an Apple Store is always an option as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong but for those that need
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else it's a good good tool. I'll try onyx and see if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes it. Maybe the third time will be a chrm. I'm frustrated by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tghis!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a good application. There are utilities in there worth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running and scheduling. Clearing the cache and such. I use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cocktail, but it's the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your install disk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up slowly but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is getting rediculous. I have not yet run permitions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. well I did a few weeks ago but I need to get back inthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> habit. I wonder what onyx will do for me lol! that is a pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good suite of stuff to fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac. You are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions check from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Utilities off of your install disk. Also, check activity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitor to see if anything is running that you are not aware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of. Check to see if you have anything starting up with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system in your login area of system preferences under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accounts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to use it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have 4 gigs of ram on this thing and I do empty my trash. the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last time I repaired permitions it worked, for about 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and then it went back to slowness. that was a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago when this happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first. See if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps. Also, make sure you don't have anything eating your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor power. It's not as big a deal on a Mac, but how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much RAM to you have? Also, make sure you empty the trash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you don't have open widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for other people that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are huge up to 3 or 4 gigs in size. OH fun! but yeah this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is ridiculous. I thought that it would have defraged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself by now but I'l be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material. Yes, an external
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to back it all up and also eliminating anything not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important. I have had my MBP for two years and I haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled forty percent of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must really have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive? How did you fill it up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so much? A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down until you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before then everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and mail mainly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. If I clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as ever in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendering tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list mode in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finder. How can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't want to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week with mid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of space but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> darned thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at rendering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the table for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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