[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
- From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:56:04 -0700
did that the first time. and a no go. but I"m ont he phoen with apple and we
are trying to trouble shoot it now. I'll keep you guys posted.
On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:27 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> OK, so this more strongly leads me to believe that this might be a hardware
> issue. If you have tried installing the OS again, it could only be that.
> However, if you have your material all backed up and have not done a
> reinstall, I'd do a complete wipe and then install the OS from scratch.
> After that, move your stuff over.
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
>> yeha i tried searching google but there were snobish forum replies talkign
>> about osx and how it really did not need to be maintained and all of them
>> said to do repair permitions. I've been searching this for months and no
>> luck.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>
>>> Again, speak to an Apple tech support person or do some serious searching
>>> on Google. Maybe, on of the Mac forums might have a good suggestion.
>>> Also, on the Apple website, do a search in support to find out if there are
>>> any knowledge base articles of relevance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Take Care
>>>
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>
>>>> No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at a time in
>>>> mail, my mail acts like it wants to freeze. it is between 1 and 2
>>>> seconds or maybe a bit more until I hear the changing window soundd. and
>>>> even vo right arrowing is causing mail or finder to be busy in list mode.
>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple support. To me, it
>>>>> should not be behaving like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to slow to a
>>>>>> crawl.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be slowing down
>>>>>>> like that. Honestly, I am out of ideas. There is probably something
>>>>>>> obvious that is being missed, but I would really contact the local
>>>>>>> Apple Store or call Apple. How old is this machine?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I also ran a
>>>>>>>> repair disk and an disk utility and no go. I also repaired permitions.
>>>>>>>> it sucks tha tonly files under 20 mb are defraged. My work has to have
>>>>>>>> me work with files that are hundreds of mb big and sometimes even
>>>>>>>> about a gig for a whole project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah. When all else fails, a call to Apple support
>>>>>>>>> or a visit to an Apple Store is always an option as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong but for those that need
>>>>>>>>>> something else it's a good good tool. I'll try onyx and see if it
>>>>>>>>>> fixes it. Maybe the third time will be a chrm. I'm frustrated by
>>>>>>>>>> tghis!
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is a good application. There are utilities in there worth
>>>>>>>>>>> running and scheduling. Clearing the cache and such. I use
>>>>>>>>>>> Cocktail, but it's the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your install disk
>>>>>>>>>>> for the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up slowly but
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is getting rediculous. I have not yet run permitions again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> well I did a few weeks ago but I need to get back inthe habit. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder what onyx will do for me lol! that is a pretty good suite
>>>>>>>>>>>> of stuff to fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac. You are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions check from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Utilities off of your install disk. Also, check activity monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see if anything is running that you are not aware of. Check
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see if you have anything starting up with the system in your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> login area of system preferences under Accounts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to use it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 gigs of ram on this thing and I do empty my trash. the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time I repaired permitions it worked, for about 10 minutes and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it went back to slowness. that was a few months ago when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first. See if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps. Also, make sure you don't have anything eating your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor power. It's not as big a deal on a Mac, but how much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM to you have? Also, make sure you empty the trash and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have open widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for other people that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge up to 3 or 4 gigs in size. OH fun! but yeah this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous. I thought that it would have defraged itself by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now but I'l be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material. Yes, an external drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to back it all up and also eliminating anything not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important. I have had my MBP for two years and I haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled forty percent of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must really have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive? How did you fill it up so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much? A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down until you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb and before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and mail mainly. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. If I clear at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as ever in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendering tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list mode in finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't want to go that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week with mid terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of space but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> darned thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at rendering the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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