and out side of an application as well. This is absolutaly driving me out the wall. Other people say just close the view but I don't always remember that it's closed lol! On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: > Well, it does sound like a verbosity issue of some kind. At least, > hearing a particular row being expanded is normally related to that. > However, if you have not changed any utility settings, I'm not sure what > could be causing it. I have not ever heard mail make any announcement like > that. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.macfortheblind.com > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I imported my prefs from my last install and there were no more changes >> after that. it didn't happen before. >> >> Take care. >> On Mar 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> Did you make any changes to your VoiceOver verbosity settings? That's the >>> only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head. >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John D. Panarese >>> Director >>> Mac for the Blind >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>> >>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Well the issue is back. I'm outside the mail app and adium is closed and >>>> I'm hearing row 8 expanded. I wonder if there's a setting I forgot in the >>>> mail prefs? can someone remember? lol! >>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 1:47 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, that's it. I have no idea why you would still hear that afterwards >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>> Director >>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>> >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah I did. it was show groups. tha'ts the first ting i did. but mail >>>>>> was still doing it until this morning. I really don't knwo what fixed it >>>>>> or why it was doing it even when adium was not running? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:53 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I know there was something in Adium that you can turn off that was >>>>>>> making the announcements come up for rows expanding and closing. I >>>>>>> think it was actually in the view settings of Adium, but I'd have to >>>>>>> look. I know I changed it and I don't hear those messages any more. >>>>>>> Let me know if you can't find it and I'll take a closer look. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>> Director >>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had night owl and adium open. I closed adium and it still did it >>>>>>>> until I got up this morning. I don't know what happened since I slept >>>>>>>> last night and when I woke up this morning but I don't hear it. Maybe >>>>>>>> mail decided to behave iself or voice over did anyway. Arg. This week >>>>>>>> is my week for issues eh? lol! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:53 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you have any other applications open. I vaguely recall something >>>>>>>>> like this happening to someone else and it coming down to changing a >>>>>>>>> verbosity setting in VoiceOver Utility. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello. My mail is saying row 8 expanded when I'm in the folders >>>>>>>>>> list. I can't think of what could have caused this. It also does >>>>>>>>>> this when I'm not in the application. I don't want to close the >>>>>>>>>> folders list and bring it up every time I want to read messages. it >>>>>>>>>> didn't do it before my osx reinstall. I'm drawing a blank here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> TIA. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to >>>>>>>>>> contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact >>>> me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me >> my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> > >