[mac4theblind] Welcome message

    OK, below is a hastily created welcome message.  Note that I am not, by 
nature, a rules guy.  I would rather not have to be specific about any set 
rules, but I've been on enough lists over the last dozen plus years to know 
that an unfortunate aspect of human nature is that it's best to have some sort 
of list of guidelines.  If there aren't any, well, that invites trouble, so 
please see below.  If you have any questions or comments or suggestions, please 
feel free to email me off list.  If you have list experience and would possibly 
be interested in being a mod at some point, please also let me know.

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WELCOME TO THE MAC4THEBLIND MAILING LIST.



      This list is intended as a mailing list for discussing the use of the Mac 
by blind users.  Specifically, VoiceOver and related topics are always 
welcomed.  The topics of the iPod, iPhone and iPad are also open for discussion 
as well.  It is hoped that this list will provide yet another source for blind 
Mac users to obtain help and advice for any technical issues they might have.  
We understand perfectly well that there are other lists that relate to these 
topics, and our intent is to simply provide yet another place for users to come 
if they desire.

    As for some basic rules or points of interest about the mac4theblind 
mailing list:



1.      Please note that this is not a Windows list.  Although running Windows 
via Boot Camp or in a virtual machine environment can be discussed, those are 
the extent of such topics.

2.       This is not a casual discussion list.  There are other lists out there 
for general discussions relating to a variety of subjects.  Please keep all 
post on topic as they relate to the Mac, VoiceOver and iDevices.  Many people 
are subscribed to multiple lists, and do not appreciate off topic messages 
cluttering their inboxes.  Please show respect by keeping all posts on topic.

3.     Any and All personal attacks directed at any list members are not 
welcomed at all.  Any member engaging in such behavior can be removed from the 
list without warning.  Topics can certainly become heated at times, but we 
please ask that you show intelligence, restraint and tolerance in your posts.

4.     Cursing and other explicit language is also not tolerated.  Adults or 
not, there is no need or excuse for using foul language on a public list.  Ones 
use of four letter words and the like does not illustrate ones intelligence or 
creativity.  We hear enough of it in every day life, so we'd appreciate not 
having it on this list.  If you cannot control yourself, you will be asked to 
tone it down or you will be removed from this list.

5.  Please keep all posts substantive.  Again, many people receive list traffic 
from a variety of other lists.  Messages that simply agree with a previous 
post, thank another user with a simple, "thank you", or "thanks" and one line 
comments are not productive or helpful.  Please put thought into your posts and 
make them count.

6.     There is no such thing as a dumb question.  Not asking a question is 
dumb.  Whether your are an experienced user or a new comer to the Mac and 
iDevices, we welcome all questions.  We want this list to be helpful and 
useful, so even if a topic has come up a bunch of times, it might be new to 
someone else who comes along.

7.  If you are new to the Mac and iDevices, you might want to check out the 
below sites for helpful information and tutorials.


http://www.apple.com/accessibility


http://www.maccessibility.net


http://www.icanworkthisthing.com


http://www.mac-access.net


http://www.applevis.com


8.     Apple bashing or the bashing of other companies, including adaptive 
technology companies and blindness organizations for the sake of bashing or to 
stir up controversy is not acceptable here.  No company is perfect and the 
criticisms or displeasures one might find are perfectly fine, but keep such 
comments in good taste and within reason.  If there is a blatant disrespect or 
simple bashing demonstrated in a post, the member will be warned.  If they 
persist along those lines, they will be removed from this list.  Again, many 
people are subscribed to many lists, so let's keep subjects on topic and 
productive.  Bashing serves no purpose at all.

9.     The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to 
their list subscription is:

http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind



     All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:

tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Once again,
we thank you for joining the mac4theblind list!









Take Care

John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com

AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA, PREMIER 
ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS, DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND 
OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED


AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT


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