I've been using ios since it first came out with voiceover and the overlays became available long after I started using it so I never saw the need for it. I suggest you listen to podcasts and read the user guide to familiarize your self with exactly how it works. It is not at all like reading braille, but you can use a refreshable braille display bia bluetooth. I use a brailliant 24 with it, but again, you will want to read up on it. On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Benjamin Blatter wrote: Hi to all Today, I went to an apple store and held an ipad in my hands for the first time. Amazing, it's much thinner than I thought. The guy there activated voice over. However I found it rather difficult to do things with all this touching and wiping. Most of all locating some things on the plain glass screen. And some funny things happened like the ipod suddenly playing music ... Maybe I was shy or it was just an unlucky start for me. but anyway, I'm wondering if you guys are really using an ipad or ipod touch for your daily life? I read somewhere about a company which makes some tactile overlays for blind people. Are you using something like that or are you really just getting fine by figure out and memorizing all the spots on the glass screen? I'm actually looking for a portable organizer. So I thought an ipad might be an interesting solution since you could look at your appointmens sort of like reading them in braille ... Do you guys organize your things this way? And is there a certain braille display you would reccommend to use with these devices? Kind regards Ben ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Jonnie Appleseed with his Hands-On Technolog(eye)s reducing technology's disabilities one byte at a time ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx