[mac4theblind] Re: The Mac-accessibility review of Voiceover in iOS 5

well, don't call names and we'll be fine.  I am actually mister learning it all 
as fast as I can if you want to be correct about it.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I agree, nor was an attack my intention.  it just sounds like just because 
someone asked a question or two you got pissed off which I don't think's 
appropriate.  Let's just drop it.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hilbert Poehlman" 
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: The Mac-accessibility review of Voiceover in iOS 5


let's not get into attacks.  you are getting the best guidance ere that is 
appropriate.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Dude, take a chill pill Mr. Know it All!  Just cause you know everything 
doesn't mean that we can't ask questions.  You make it sound as if it's a 
notorious sin in your book to do so.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hilbert Poehlman" 
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: The Mac-accessibility review of Voiceover in iOS 5


look, ios5 will b here for everyone to day, it's already on the 4s so that when 
it arives you won't have to ad itwhen you get your 4s.
.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, now hold on though.

Unless I misunderstood you, which is possible, you're changing what you 
initially said.  You originally said it was only for now for the 4S's.  Now 
you're saying it comes already on the 4S's, which is correct from what I hear.  
So, does this mean they're holding the update for us 4 users and for now only 
giving it to the 4S users?  If that's so, then it doesn't make sense, as the 4S 
hasn't even come out yet and won't, until Friday.

See what I mean?

Sorry for the confusion.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: The Mac-accessibility review of Voiceover in iOS 5


> Because the new iphone4s already has the IOS5 on it it will not need to be
> updated. The IOS5 release is for the iphone4, iphone3gs, ipad1, ipad2, and
> IPod touch that is not the new iPod touch. They don't need to release a IOS
> to go on a new device that already have the new IOS on it.  HTH
> 
> 
> Sign,
> Bubba
> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:02 AM
> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: The Mac-accessibility review of Voiceover in iOS
> 5
> 
> Hmm, cause I know the 4S isn't even coming out until this Friday, so, that
> wouldn't even make sense, if they're releasing i o s 5 today.
> 
> Why would they release a firmware that isn't even available with the
> necessary hardware?
> 
> Chris.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:44 AM
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: The Mac-accessibility review of Voiceover in iOS
> 
> 5
> 
> 
>> Yes, IOS5 will work on the iphone4 except for the new voice command thing
>> and it will only be on the iphone4s as of now. I hear the update for the
>> phone will be around 1 pm EST.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sign,
>> Bubba
>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:11 AM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: The Mac-cessibility review of VoiceOver in iOS
> 
>> 5
>> 
>> Yeah, but, for one, I don't have the new IPhone that is gonna be coming
>> out.
>> 
>> I just have the IPhone 4.  Will I O S 5 work on this? And do we know when
>> today 5'll be released?  I know it's now public knowledge that it will be
>> today, beyond a doubt.  Just didn't know if we knew around what time
>> today.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh de Lioncourt" 
>> <overlord@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:06 AM
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] The Mac-cessibility review of VoiceOver in iOS 5
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thought you all might find this useful.
>> 
>> 
> http://www.lioncourt.com/reviews/a-look-at-accessibility-and-voiceover-in-io
>> s-5/
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