[mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
- From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:59:01 -0400
This is true. Also, it's like anything else. It's as complex or
complicated as you make it to be. In other words, I often find myself thinking
that people tend to be daunted by it because it doesn't behave in ways they
find familiar or the interface is not what they are used to. It comes down to
actually using it and taking the time and having the patience to really work
with it. I may find myself very well doing a demonstration on it, I think, at
some point soon.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
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On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> It seems like all this discussion comes down to a question of taste. For one
> thing iTunes is not as simple to use as winamp, because it is designed to do
> more things. iTunes is for the most part accessible, and no more complicated
> for blind people than for sighted ones, but there is more to it than CD
> ripping, music library, and radio. If a mac user really doesn't like iTunes,
> there are certainly other applications, like VLC for example.
>
> Justin
> El 04-09-2011, a las 8:56, JULIO PEREZ escribió:
>
>> I am using version 10.4.1 of iTunes and JAWS 12.0.1170. I agree with you
>> that the later versions of both, JAWS and iTunes are more user friendly than
>> the earlier ones but... Yeah, I see we both agree, not a walk in the park!
>>
>> I also have access to a MacBook running Snow Leopard and will be trying out
>> the Mac version of iTunes to compare ease of use and iPhone interface. With
>> the iPhone, I now have my first real incentive to play with the Mac... Maybe
>> that has been Apple's game plan all along!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
>> Poehlman
>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:55 AM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
>>
>> which version of itunes are you using, the version tha was released not long
>> ago fixed a lot of issues. Also, there is a pretty new version of jaws that
>> also fixed a lot of itunes issue but I believe you and am not saying it is a
>> walk in the park for everyone and not even that it is necessarily an user
>> issue but there are configuration settings that can make it easier and also
>> the way it is approached can make a difference. I know a lot of quite
>> experienced windows users including me or at least it used to include me who
>> have problems with itunes on windows but I was helped a lot by being able to
>> use itunes on the mac and then transfering that knowledge to windows.
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 10:48 AM, JULIO PEREZ wrote:
>>
>> I'm sorry David but I DO want to point out that using iTunes (latest
>> version) with JAWS (latest version) gives me a real headache. I'm not new to
>> this stuff and I have plenty of experience and patience in dealing with
>> unruly apps. The unpredictability of how tabbing, shift tabbing and using F6
>> with JAWS in iTunes is ridiculous. I get plenty of controls without prompts;
>> using the JAWS cursor is not good enough... I am no beginner in using JAWS
>> or iTunes. As long as I only work with my music library, I can handle it
>> relatively well. Everything else including registering with iTunes,
>> configuring an iPhone and many other things that would be really cool to
>> master are painful at best. From reading your message, I come away with the
>> impression that it trouble with iTunes is totally an user issue and I
>> disagree.
>>
>> I don't understand why Apple doesn't make their iTune Windows interface more
>> accessible. I bet it will draw more blind Window users to their other
>> devices.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
>> Poehlman
>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:10 AM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
>>
>> I use itunes with jaws for windows with no scripts just fine. It looks an
>> aweful lot like itunes on the mac to me.
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 2:52 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>
>> Hi there. Thank you very much for trying to help, but I will absolutely
>> never install Itunes on my PC. If I have it on the mac, that's more than
>> sufficient; I don't even like using it there, but since it's more or less
>> part of the OS, I'm willing to learn it to the best of my ability. The point
>> is, though, that there's no way it's ever going to touch the PC. I feel the
>> way about Skype, and instant messaging stuff. I just don't want to bog down
>> my PC with that stuff, so I put it on the mac, mostly so that I can at least
>> have a few reasons to own the thing.
>> Anyway, like I said, thanks for trying to help, but I suspect that Itunes on
>> my macbook is a completely different animal than itunes would be on the PC.
>> Missy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bubba
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:14 PM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
>>
>> Hi, don't know about the Mac as I don't have one yet. Looking to get one as
>> quick as my pocket aloud it. But they make scripts for JFW and iTunes that
>> will help with this. See my previous message with the links. HTH
>>
>>
>> Bubba
>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:20 PM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
>>
>> I was given that suggestion earlier this morning by someone on twitter when
>> I first experienced the problem, and tried to follow those exact steps right
>> away. Unfortunately, when I went to the lcd section, it just said unknown
>> when I switched to the other view. Same problem happened on both stations,
>> and when I play them in winamp, everything is fine, so it's definitely an
>> itunews-related problem.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
>> Poehlman
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:18 PM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
>>
>> ok, on the macbook in itunes, there is an "lcd section" in there, you will
>> find the currently playing item.
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>
>> Well, I have itunes on the macbook. I have winamp on the pc. I have no idea
>> where I'd have to look in the app to find the info I needed. It sounds like
>> winamp is still my best bet for listening to internet radio if there's no
>> way to get Itunes to make the title and artist info easily accessible.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
>> Poehlman
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
>>
>> what were you using if not your pc? The title and artist will not show up
>> in the title bar. They show up inside the app.
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>
>> Well, the best example would be this afternoon, I was listening to internet
>> radio, and I really needed the title and artist info to show up in the
>> title bar, and no matter what I did, Itunes couldn't do it, so I had to use
>> my PC, which was fine, but it made things a bit difficult.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
>> Poehlman
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:58 PM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
>>
>> details please? we can help.
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested in such a podcast too. I've had to use itunes this
>> afternoon, and it has not been an enjoyable experience.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian and Denise
>> Albriton
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:43 PM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Itunes for beginner
>>
>> Is there a podcast on itunes for well, idiots. I don't even qualify for the
>> dummy stage at this point.
>> Have a great weekend folks.
>> Brian
>>
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