[mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
- From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:51:55 -0400
Unless it has changed it was accessible on the IOS as I have it on it. I did
take it off because I did not like the having to sync with the Firefox sync
thing. But the browser work just fine. Now it might have changed . But if
they are taking the approach that the screen reader need to be made to work
with the app then it will never happen as Apple believes the app should be
made to work with the screen reader and this is the best approach. If all
programs and application had to be made to work with screen readers we would
not have accessibility problems. That is the problem the most part
applications and programs on windows side think it is the screen reader
company or the blind responabilty to make the Windows programs and
application accessible and this is so wrong. That is why none of MS office
would be accessible to windows user if screen readers companies did not make
it accessible. You see it should be the other way around MS should make
office accessible to the screen readers, both on the windows side and Apple
side. If they did this and other application and program makers did this we
would not have to pay the ridiculous price for screen readers. JMT
Bubba
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:31 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
They were long and painfully specific on their blog they had conversations
with apple in which they basically said that apple's api accessibility api
needed to be re-written to work with firefox instead of adapting ff to work
with vo. I might be able to dig up the blog. Also, it is not accessible on
ios either.
On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Bubba wrote:
Now that don't make no sense as Firefox has a app for the iPhone, ipad and
iPod! They had to follow guidelines there so someone sounds like they don't
know what they are talking about.
Bubba
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:19 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
I had a long talk with a firefox accessibility specialist and to make it
short, he said that in order for firefox to be accessibility that appl would
have to adopt firefox way or the highway. In other words, mozilla was not
going to follow apple guidelines for accessible apis.
On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, John Panarese wrote:
They claim they are going to make Firefox accessible with VoiceOver. At
least, there were some people who had a very productive dialog going with
the developers. I really don't know the status of those talks, however.
As a related note, Omniweb works fairly well with VoiceOver. It has a
different interface and there are some unlabeled buttons in a few places.
Also, preferences doesn't seem to be completely accessible. However, if you
want a backup to Safari and you're willing to take the time to play with it,
it is another web alternative. It is fast and I have yet to encounter any
busy signals. If you use the Blind Micemart site for DVS audio, it also
works with the site.
Does anyone know for sure how well Opera and Chrome stand with VoiceOver?
Last I heard, they were both close, but table navigation and a few other
things were not working.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
> Hi all, thanks for all your comments I find it's a shame that firefox
doesn't work with voiceover but that's how it is I suppose. Hopefully one
day It will though!
>
> Daniel
>
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> From: "John Panarese" <jpanarese@xxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 3:18 AM
> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
>
>> I've only used Lightning browser. It's very fast. The interface is
>> a
little different than Safari, but it is a nice browser. I am gong to try
Omni Web soon.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND
>> SUPPORT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>
>>> The last one I have heard of . yes, what is your input on the other
ones?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bubba
>>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John G
>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:26 PM
>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
>>>
>>> Have you any more info on the opera situation, John?
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>> At 02:18 03/09/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Lightning Browser and Omni Web from the App store. I hear Opera
>>>> is on its way to being accessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take Care
>>>>
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING
>>>> AND SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any other browser other than Safari that works with Vo?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bubba
>>>>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
>>>>> Hilbert Poehlman
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:57 PM
>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatabilty with Voiceover
>>>>>
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, as my subject says, I was just wondering about the
>>>>> accessibility of Voiceover with firefox on the Mac OS X. By this I
>>>>> mean can VO users use Firefox instead of using safari and if not,
>>>>> what's the news on
>>>> building this
>>>>> into firefox and VO Users?
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that this might be old news to VO Users or it might of
>>>>> been covered loads of time before but I don't own a Mac and I am
>>>> interested in if
>>>>> there has been any development in this Web Browser with
>>>> Voiceover. What with
>>>>> the new Mac OS Lion just recently out. Is there any hope for Vo
>>>> Users in the
>>>>> future to be able to use the Firefox Web Browser? I also ask
>>>> because I don't
>>>>> own a Mac and am keane to know what choices I have should the
>>>> time come when
>>>>> I might get one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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