[mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
- From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 13:36:14 -0400
they are basically saying that they developped their own api and they weren't
going to use anyone elses. Before the at developers got hold of it, you
couldn't even use ff on windows.
On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
I remember they made it sound like a good reason, though I really didn't have
the technical know how to understand why FF couldn't be made to work on the
same guidelines as omni or safari. Are they saying that it would effect the
functionality?
Justin
El 04-09-2011, a las 10:30, David Hilbert Poehlman escribió:
> They were long and painfully specific on their blog they had conversations
> with apple in which they basically said that apple's api accessibility api
> needed to be re-written to work with firefox instead of adapting ff to work
> with vo. I might be able to dig up the blog. Also, it is not accessible on
> ios either.
>
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Bubba wrote:
>
> Now that don't make no sense as Firefox has a app for the iPhone, ipad and
> iPod! They had to follow guidelines there so someone sounds like they don't
> know what they are talking about.
>
>
> Bubba
> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
> Poehlman
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:19 PM
> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
>
> I had a long talk with a firefox accessibility specialist and to make it
> short, he said that in order for firefox to be accessibility that appl would
> have to adopt firefox way or the highway. In other words, mozilla was not
> going to follow apple guidelines for accessible apis.
>
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>
> They claim they are going to make Firefox accessible with VoiceOver. At
> least, there were some people who had a very productive dialog going with
> the developers. I really don't know the status of those talks, however.
>
> As a related note, Omniweb works fairly well with VoiceOver. It has a
> different interface and there are some unlabeled buttons in a few places.
> Also, preferences doesn't seem to be completely accessible. However, if you
> want a backup to Safari and you're willing to take the time to play with it,
> it is another web alternative. It is fast and I have yet to encounter any
> busy signals. If you use the Blind Micemart site for DVS audio, it also
> works with the site.
>
>
> Does anyone know for sure how well Opera and Chrome stand with VoiceOver?
> Last I heard, they were both close, but table navigation and a few other
> things were not working.
>
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>
>> Hi all, thanks for all your comments I find it's a shame that firefox
> doesn't work with voiceover but that's how it is I suppose. Hopefully one
> day It will though!
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "John Panarese" <jpanarese@xxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 3:18 AM
>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
>>
>>> I've only used Lightning browser. It's very fast. The interface is a
> little different than Safari, but it is a nice browser. I am gong to try
> Omni Web soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> Take Care
>>>
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND
>>> SUPPORT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>
>>>> The last one I have heard of . yes, what is your input on the other
> ones?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bubba
>>>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John G
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:26 PM
>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover
>>>>
>>>> Have you any more info on the opera situation, John?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> At 02:18 03/09/2011, you wrote:
>>>>> Lightning Browser and Omni Web from the App store. I hear Opera
>>>>> is on its way to being accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING
>>>>> AND SUPPORT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any other browser other than Safari that works with Vo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
>>>>>> Hilbert Poehlman
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:57 PM
>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatabilty with Voiceover
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, as my subject says, I was just wondering about the
>>>>>> accessibility of Voiceover with firefox on the Mac OS X. By this I
>>>>>> mean can VO users use Firefox instead of using safari and if not,
>>>>>> what's the news on
>>>>> building this
>>>>>> into firefox and VO Users?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realise that this might be old news to VO Users or it might of
>>>>>> been covered loads of time before but I don't own a Mac and I am
>>>>> interested in if
>>>>>> there has been any development in this Web Browser with
>>>>> Voiceover. What with
>>>>>> the new Mac OS Lion just recently out. Is there any hope for Vo
>>>>> Users in the
>>>>>> future to be able to use the Firefox Web Browser? I also ask
>>>>> because I don't
>>>>>> own a Mac and am keane to know what choices I have should the
>>>>> time come when
>>>>>> I might get one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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