[mac4theblind] 3rd party browser and email accessibility, as well as some other thoughts. was Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover

  • From: Valiant8086 <valiant8086@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:51:28 -0400

Hi.
After reading about it I tried Lightning, and I think it's somewhat nice. I'm hoping I find something I really like sometime, because on my mac, Safari is very busy most of the time, and as it is right now I'm much better off just using internet explorer on my other computers or the web browser on my Nokia E5 rofl! Does anybody know if there is something I can do to have safari not be so busy? Sometimes it will even do this thing where it will say safari, busy, then it will say busy 3 or 4 times, then it will say safari, ready. About 3 seconds later, it will repeat the whole process and it will continue this indefinitely until I turn voice over off and back on.

Speaking of voice over working with non built in alternatives like Firefox as aposed to safari, I sure wish Thunderbird worked on the mac, or does it, and I just couldn't figure it out when I tried it. Does anyone know of a simpler mail client than mail that works with imap and might be a little quicker to use? I get lots of email, and could use any chance I could get to speed up my reading of emails. Hmm, if Voice over works somewhat with Opera, I wonder if that means it works with Opera's email too? I just might have to give that a try. What little tiny bit I got to see of Opera on windows really impressed me, but about all I could learn about it was that it started like way fast.

Right now I can only speed myself up so much, because I can't seem to understand any synthesizers that are sped up very much at all except for eloquence. Ironically, I do much better with Scan soft tom on my mac than with Alex, but that's not saying much. I know people can use Alex pretty fast, I've heard them over Skype, but I'm just like, huh?

Oh, I have another question born out of curiosity. On my 11 inch mac book air, the late 2010 model with the 1.4ghz core2duo and a 60gb ssd, I found that when I updated to lion, instead of improving performance, it actually worsened. That is to say, Alex was noticeably less responsive in every way when I navigated around my mac. But I happily discovered when I got my realSpeak voices installed and going that they were actually more responsive than Alex ever was on my Macbook air. But a friend of mine with his Macbook pro says Tom on his is actually rather slow compared to Alex in terms of responsiveness. I wondered if anybody knows why that is? I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with the fact his mac book pro has a standard hard drive, while mine has a solid state. Maybe Tom is more reliant on the hardware's ability to quickly read the speech database from the disk than Alex is.

Anyway, I realize this message is off topic mostly from the discussion to which I replied, so I'll go ahead and give it my own subject. I don't usually write like this, but I wanted to get my thoughts off in one shot so I can go to bed without having to write several emails.


Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.13 portable.

On 9/4/2011 12:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
Hi all, thanks for all your comments I find it's a shame that firefox doesn't work with voiceover but that's how it is I suppose. Hopefully one day It will though!

Daniel

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From: "John Panarese" <jpanarese@xxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 3:18 AM
To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover

I've only used Lightning browser. It's very fast. The interface is a little different than Safari, but it is a nice browser. I am gong to try Omni Web soon.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Bubba wrote:

The last one I have heard of . yes, what is your input on the other ones?


Bubba
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-----Original Message-----
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John G
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:26 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatibility with Voiceover

Have you any more info on the opera situation, John?
Thanks,
John

At 02:18 03/09/2011, you wrote:
    Lightning Browser and Omni Web from the App store.  I hear Opera
is on its way to being accessible.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND
SUPPORT




On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Bubba wrote:

Is there any other browser other than Safari that works with Vo?


Bubba
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-----Original Message-----
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
Hilbert Poehlman
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:57 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Firefox compatabilty with Voiceover

not.

On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

Hi all, as my subject says, I was just wondering about the
accessibility of Voiceover with firefox on the Mac OS X. By this I
mean can VO users use Firefox instead of using safari and if not,
what's the news on
building this
into firefox and VO Users?

I realise that this might be old news to VO Users or it might of
been covered loads of time before but I don't own a Mac and I am
interested in if
there has been any development in this Web Browser with
Voiceover. What with
the new Mac OS Lion just recently out. Is there any hope for Vo
Users in the
future to be able to use the Firefox Web Browser? I also ask
because I don't
own a Mac and am keane to know what choices I have should the
time come when
I might get one.

Many Thanks

Daniel

--
Jonnie Appleseed
with his
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
reducing technology's disabilities
one byte at a time

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