Eric Yost wrote: "I meant 'our' root assumptions: me contextualizing ..." Ah. Your mention of "a Nietzschean transvaluation of values" is a bit misleading, then. Eric again: "Attractive to whom?" You mentioned that you were interested in a moral, not political, discussion. 'To whom?' is a political question. Again, a bit misleading. I am interested in the moral bit. Sincerely, Phil Enns Glen Haven, NS ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html