[lit-ideas] Re: speaking of libraries in the United States of Earth
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 23:12:34 -0400
> [Original Message]
> From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 8/7/2005 10:06:58 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: speaking of libraries in the United States of
Earth
>
>
> AA> Of course he has rights, but so does society. You're saying that if
> AA> someone sneaks into a movie theatre they should demand their rights
to stay
> AA> and watch the movie?
>
> If someone sneaks into a theatre they can be asked to
> leave, but if before that or during that process they are injured,
> they have the right to sue for compensation. And they have the right
> to be ejected without undue force. (Etc.)
>
I'm not advocating undue force. I'm advocating that people apply for visas
and work permits and citizenship.
> Encouraging people to be above the law does no one
> AA> any service.
>
> Violating people's rights does not encourage them to observe the
> rights of others, and treating them as they should be treated does not
> place them above the law.
>
They place themselves above the law by ignoring the law. Then they want
protection from that law. And they get it. They sue, they get disability.
Their children get educated.
> (I don't know enough about the rights of people illegally resident in
> the US to know what tort cases they can bring.)
>
>
I'm not an expert either, but I have heard about people bringing cases for
getting rear ended and others for injuries sustained during fruit picking
operations. They also sue for and get state disability benefits. These
people are illegally in this country. I feel sorry for them, certainly,
Mexico is a miserable place. But if they're going to piss on our laws and
just walk in at will (abandoning their families back in Mexico to do this),
and demand financial benefits be paid them for doing us a favor and working
here, then they can at least have the decency not to glorify the country
they're leaving. Mexican gangs and "superlabs" are also a very large,
although not only, source of methamphetamine in this country. People
simply walk over the border, and so do the drugs. Meth is the leading drug
problem in this country today.
Regarding Enoch Powell, the case isn't analogous. Powell apparently did
invite those people. They were not illegally there. The people arriving
here are doing it under their own volition and with the encouragement of
their government, which receives more income from them than from their
biggest industry export, oil.
You say I misunderstand. What is it that I misunderstand, and what part of
illegal do you find the most attractive? Perhaps we should relegate this
now meaningless word illegal to the historical scrap heap as having once
quaintly described people who break the law but now describes a group
indispensable to the Mexican economy.
Andy Amago
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