[lit-ideas] Re: reforming immigration

EY> By 
EY> definition, it cannot be clear thinking, since 
EY> Krugman refuses to examine the basis of his 
EY> convictions. 

I disagree.  But perhaps Krugman should have been 
dishonest and cut all of the words below before "we"

> If people like me are going to respond 
effectively to anti-immigrant
 > demagogues, we have to acknowledge those facts.

I'm, like Krugmann, in theory inviolably biassed towards 
immigration.  But rather than say "**** off I'm pro-immigration"
I acknowledge such facts as baying anti-immigrant 
demagogues proffer and (attempt to) counter their fictions. 
That's politics.


His bias is inviolate. In effect, it 
> is no different than Karl Rove telling some flack, 
> "This is how we are going to spin the Immigration 
> issue." This is strategy, not clear thinking.

Oh yes it is different from spin.  Let's say someone here tells me 
3 million Mexicans cross the border every day, rape half the women 
in California, and live off welfare benefits denied to US citizens.  Let's 
say I tell them what the actual facts are.  That's spin?  No.  

(I don't get your distinction between strategy and clear thinking.)

Judy Evans, Cardiff
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