Mike Geary wrote: "One doesn't just wake up one morning and say, 'OK, today I'm changing my basic beliefs' (excepting, of course, Paul of Tarsus). It's the incremental realization that a particular belief isn't really working." I can't think of any belief of mine that I decided to hold. On the other hand, I can remember occasions where I realized that I no longer believed what I thought I believed. It seems to me that beliefs are less the result of a decision and, following Nietzsche, more the surface expression of a great deal of activity that is going on elsewhere. For myself, I often have to work hard to find out what I believe, not necessarily because the issues are complicated but rather it is as though the conditions for my holding a belief are not yet settled. I wonder if something similar is occurring in the Paul story. The story makes clear that Paul does not choose to change his beliefs but is, rather, overwhelmed. For Christians, Paul is overwhelmed by a vision of Jesus Christ, but a more mundane explanation might be that Paul, for whatever reason, has an epiphany that he no longer believes what he thought he believed. The relevant Nietzsche quote: "Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster." Sincerely, Phil Enns Yogyakarta, Indonesia ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html