[lit-ideas] Re: lit-ideas Digest V1 #129
- From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:05:18 EST
My last post was written during a commercial in the middle of an end of the
world type movie while answering calls from kids to look at the funny
commercial. I actually typed it with my head turned to the TV not looking at
the
monitor. Out of mercy for list-members I'm not re-writing the thing
correcting
all the typos. Just ....consider them corrected....
Julie Krueger
multi-tasking just isn't working anymore
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V1 #129 Date: 11/14/04 9:53:38 PM Central Standard Time From:
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_Apologetics research resources on religious cults and sects - Pensacola
Outpouring, Pentecostalism, Post-Modernism, Etc._
(http://www.apologeticsindex.org/p00.html)
<<Prosperity Teaching
_Aberrant_ (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/a26.html) doctrine, largely
promoted by the _Word-Faith_
(http://www.apologeticsindex.org/w00.html#wordf)
movement. Here's how it is sold: God wants you to be rich, but He can not
bless
you unless you first send money (a.k.a. "seed-faith offering") to whichever
televangelist or teacher tells you about this scheme. Perfected by _Oral
Roberts_ (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/r00.html#roberts) , Kenneth
Copeland,
the _Universal Church of the Kingdom of God_
(http://www.apologeticsindex.org/i04.html) , et al. >>
The notion derives largely from the promise of the tithe -- if you give God
10% of your income He will reward you ten-fold. TV Evangelists
particularly
used this to get sick poor little old women to donate to their cause. Oral
Roberts you surely know of -- his giant Praying Hands entrance to his musem
which, though he was still alive when he built it (I have no idea if he's
alive
now or not) has the entire front room devoted to his life; the super-high
towering hospital where the patients could be as close to God as possible
while
being treated (Babel 2); his promises of prosperity to anyone who would
donate. Trickle down effect was, in Churches, if you didn't display signs
of
wealth you obviously weren't a God-honoring Christian. These preachers
didn't
try to reconcile scriptures (e.g. prosperity & eye of the needle) with one
another. They were consummate professionals at ripping a verse out of
context
and making it mean anything that would serve their purposes.
Unfortunately
the "faith trumphs all" thing in the Pentecostal movement caused
questioning,
examining, thinking (aka "doubting") to be a sin, so people swallowed whole
anything fed them, in their righteousness. Critical thinking was a sin.
Julie Krueger
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Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: lit-ideas Digest V1 #129 Date: 11/14/04 9:29:36 PM
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Sorry, I've been preoccupied, just saw this. No, I haven't heard the
prosperity sermons. I'm really curious how they rationalize this. I'll
guess that
God bestows success on them because they deserve it, the old Puritan
settlers in America line. Am I close? It still doesn't explain this line
about the
camel.
Andy
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From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
Sent: Nov 13, 2004 2:31 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: lit-ideas Digest V1 #129
<<Bush and some other Evangelicals are quite wealthy. It makes me wonder
how they reconcile wealth with the Bible's notion that a rich man will
enter
heaven the way a camel goes through the eye of a needle, or words to that
effect. >>
I guess you haven't heard the Prosperity sermons rampant by TV
Evangelists.
Julie Krueger
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