---- Original Message ----- From: Paul Stone To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 4/17/2006 10:16:28 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] global luke-warming -- addendum At 06:57 AM 4/17/2006, you wrote: The ironic thing is that if the icecaps melted completely, the 'polar vortex' would cease and the ozone layer would start repairing itself. Maybe "Global Warming" is an insane plot by GWB to fix the ozone layer. ***This is just stupid talk. More likely (but then, anything is more likely), is it's the earth's way of healing itself. It was here long before humanity. Part of the basic existentialism of the universe. People don't care about people. People don't care about the Earth. The Earth doesn't care about people. Likewise greenhouse gasses; we may not be causing climate change but we could be influencing it, pushing it along. It's strange how when it comes to something like war, we're so proactive, don't just sit there, do something, do anything, bomb them. But when it comes to acknowledging a monster ozone hole created by humans, and possibly tipping the planet's weather, we suddenly get very passive. Perhaps 'helpless' would be a better word than 'passive. ***I agree. I sense it's denial by ordinary people more than anything else. It's like a science fiction movie come to life, but without a hero to save us. What I don't understand is corporate denial. Are profits that important above anything and everything else? Clearly they are. Not everyone is passive. Obviously the scientists who put together the information aren't passive. But enough people are happily sitting on their hands that nothing is being done about it, like with the CFC's. NOTHING? I think you are exaggerating. ***The ones who are talking about it are being hushed and shouted down, like the PR campaign by corporate regarding CFC's. The U.S. walked away from global pollution protocols. Yeah, I think "nothing" is an accurate description. I talked a few days earlier of the politicization of things. The people who are yelling 'global warming' continuously have one basic premise -- something's happening to our weather. Then when ANYTHING happens, they jump up and say "I told you something was happening to our weather". I would LOVE to see an actual model for what is actually happening during this 'global warming', but it seems you can look in 10 different places and get 10 distinctly different views of it -- and most of the time, wherever the person who is writing about it is from is the focus of his/her view. A researcher in England say "London will be swamped". A guy in Caribbean says, no, we're going to cool down and London will actually see a LOWERING in its water levels". In its early stages of hysteria, the 'global warming' campaign is a bit like visiting a charlatan: a hundred things are said and you only remember the 2 things that come to fruition. ***There is good science on which there is agreement by reputable scientists. The junk stuff is promoted by anti global warming "scientists". Once again, I'm not at all denying the fact that man-made pollutants are having effects on our weather. BUT... nobody really seems to know much about exactly what is happening. Terms like "greenhouse gases" and "global warming" are misleading. That's my beef. There are no special gases in a greenhouse and the globe does not have A temperature. Education is the first step in sea-change (literally in this case) so lets start at the ground and start with at least correct, non-hysterical language to describe the dilemma. Then, maybe we can begin to address the problem objectively. ***When the CEO's see their lifestyles in jeopardy, then there will be action. Unfortunately, by then it may be too late. paul ########## Paul Stone pas@xxxxxxxx Kingsville, ON, Canada