Not sure it's terrible at all. I find myself an adamantly consistent supporter of social euthanasia. Not capital punishment mind you, but a removal of those individuals not conducive to, shall we say, reasonable discord. I don't give a damn about what you think I should or shouldn't do; just leave the hell alone, and I'll agree to the same. But, at the bar or over a bowl, let us chop each others' sacred cows into offal and share a congenial stew. Simply scream at me and call me a fool, and I'll slap you heartily on the back and call you Friend if you resist the infliction of your (purported) ethos. But the gods and you be damned if you resort to the cowardly antics of guns, censorship, or bawling to the powers that (may but should not) be. Let us make do with what we can fashion ourselves. Burn the (thoughtless) engineers, not the witches. We cannot ever expect the group to employ that which they do not fully understand with sincere selflessness, and that includes the engineers, who never grasp the sociological impact of their findings. still, finding splintered metre sticks just as deadly, d. Mike wrote: So comforting to know that crazy people have the right to own AK-47's for their personal protection. Thank God for the conservative wing of the Supreme Court. How else could socio-pathic paranoids freely express themselves? I pray to God that their loved ones are shot down before any of mine. Is that a terrible thing to wish or what? It seems terrible but at the same time, so poetically just. Mike GearyMemphis -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com