[lit-ideas] Re: comments the DEMs must defend
- From: "Simon Ward" <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:58:39 -0000
Seems you're determined to swing the discussion to where you want it. Does
that mean you're having trouble with the parts you're ignoring? Or perhaps
you're just projecting your own insecurities. As Judy has said, Europeans
are well aware of the propensity for Governments to lie. How about you?
Let me ask you again: do you believe that Bush's concern for the Iraqi
people under Saddam played a substantive part in the decision to invade? Or
perhaps more pertinent: do you believe that Bush, even before 9/11, had it
in mind to invade Iraq?
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From: "Eric" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:55 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: comments the DEMs must defend
Simon: As for Afghanistan, I can only guess that this is down to further
concern about acting in conjunction with a US force under the control of
an unpopular government.
How about the Euro governments? Ever occur to you guys that you are being
manipulated and lied to by your governments? Seems to be a no-brainer to
you that we are ... but you? Ever think of that?
Your "further concern" = the Euro politicians know that their armies are
so substandard they'd take big casualties and don't want to risk a big
backlash against big casualties in a noble cause, or suffer the ignominy
of being directed by a Brit or a Yank. I mean why should they?
* they already have a "bad guy" in the US and can play that to their
populations because
* they don't want to make the social concessions involved in getting a
strong army
* The bad guy will do all the heavy lifting for them anyway
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How about the Euro governments? Ever occur to you guys that you are being manipulated and lied to by your governments? Seems to be a no-brainer to you that we are ... but you? Ever think of that?
Your "further concern" = the Euro politicians know that their armies are so substandard they'd take big casualties and don't want to risk a big backlash against big casualties in a noble cause, or suffer the ignominy of being directed by a Brit or a Yank. I mean why should they?
* they already have a "bad guy" in the US and can play that to their populations because
* they don't want to make the social concessions involved in getting a strong army
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