[lit-ideas] additional thought

Hi, again!
 
I forgot 2) for this part:
 
EY:  Will my fellow liberals prefer to have Bush fail (as Paul Stone  
thinks) rather than let Iraqi freedom win? If we do prefer to see 
Bush  fail, won't his failure be OUR failure? If Bush fails, why do 
my fellow  liberals think that they live on a special reservation
insulated from all the  repercussions of history?
 
 
MB:  No. I think the two scenarios that I would prefer are:
 
1) we go back to the discarded Plan A (with ... 
 
but forgot to say:
 
the other scenario I would prefer would be
 
 2) That we stop looking at what and who 'fails' -- when we do this  (and I 
think we ALL are doing this--whether pro or anti- Bush) - we are NOT  looking 
at what the outcome we want should be...
 
(Not that I have all the answers--I do not and know that very well--but  
would prefer to see the hearts heading towards a different direction than  
focusing on Bush foreign policy no matter which side one's heart is on...)
 
I am guessing that many other cities/states have heard the phrase that was  
once (in the KC area, anyway) on the lips of almost ANYONE dealing with  
decision-making. It has caused so many kids, for example in the KC area to be  
immunized and reporting by television stations, etc...   It's a bit  like in 
the 
book I'm reading which is talking about how there are more and more  companies 
who are seeing 'success' by looking at the duel aspects within  decision-making 
as 1) impact on society 2) impact on company
 
"Is it good for the children?"  The idea was that every decision  any 
organization/company/business/government agency made needed to have that  
question 
answered [affirmatively <g>].  (Yes, Julie--wouldn't it be  wonderful if our 
current governor had heard this...!!)
 
So...Is it good for the Iraqis?  What would be the pros and cons of  our 
leaving right away?  What would the impact, long-term, be on *each*  member of 
society there?  Each nation-state in the world?
 
So--if for some reason, Plan  A would not be possible and/or we left  ... 
whether it was because the Iraqis/world opinion/American society or others  
said 
enough is enough/Republicans decided they'd never keep control of Congress  if 
they didn't leave OR because by some (remote) miracle {<wry look> I'm  trying 
to work on my attitude problem with disbelief in this possibility--but  okay, 
I'm working with it, here...] Bush's methods DID accomplish a vibrant and  
life-giving society for EACH member of its nation--we should be focused on "Is  
it good for the Iraqis?"  
 
and liberal and conservative/Pro or Anti Bush person can then focus on  
whether or not the ends justified the means, sure--.  Debate and  conversation 
is 
extremely healthy!
 
But, I also would desire within Plan B that  deep down, I really  hope that 
ALL would be simply THRILLED to be able to FINALLY be hearing from  Iraqis that 
Life Is Good.

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