[lit-ideas] Re: Willie Pete's Role Reversal

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:00:33 -0500

Would you accept pictures of "regular" dead bodies?  Say, like they do on the 
news of mafioso killings?  How much regular gore do you think war is limited 
to, and how much would you accept?  


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How do you know these are real images from real situations and not doctored or 
"produced" photos for a political cause?  Or for money or sensationalism or 
whatever.

It's so far-fetched I have a hard time believing it's real.

Julie Krueger

========Original Message======== Subj:[lit-ideas] Re: Willie Pete's Role 
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Date:11/12/05 1:45:00 PM Central Standard Time
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> Who in the world do you know that is doing this?
> I have good friends who have kids in Iraq.

When the German soldiers returned from their war, they all said that they had 
seen nothing. 
None of those atrocities or abuses.

When the US soldiers returned from Vietnam, they all said that they had seen 
nothing. None 
of those atrocities or abuses.

When the US soldiers return from Afghanistan and Iraq, they all say that they 
had seen 
nothing. None of those atrocities or abuses.

Of course not. These are good boys, returning to their homes, their moms, their 
communities. 
What else would they say?

But what did these nice boys do, when they were 12,000 miles away on the other 
side of the 
planet? These are young men, with their overactive male hormones, with their 
buddies, in a 
completely lawless area, armed to the teeth and they can do whatever they 
goddamn fucking 
feel like doing.

These are soldiers at war. War is not nice. (Hey, that's another truism for 
Phil!)

Soldiers are not trained to be nice. They are not trained to be respectful. 
They are trained 
to kill. How do you deal with a threat? You kill it. Any potential threat? You 
kill it.

But there's more to war than the military stuff. There's the whore houses, the 
pornography, 
and the booze, all in massive amounts.

And when they return home, they're nice young boys again.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18414

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4278734.stm

http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/iraq/#Conduct

Be careful with this next one. It's not nice. (Phil, don't click on this one). 
It doesn't 
have nice boys in it. It has language and situations.

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/2005-09-21/news/news.html

Okay. Deep breath. You wanna see the Freedom Standing Tall? You wanna see 
smoked sand 
niggers? God Bless America!

http://www.nowthatsfuckedup.com/bbs/forum23.html

yrs,
andreas
www.andreas.com

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