[lit-ideas] Re: Willie Pete's Role Reversal

  • From: Michael Chase <goya@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:12:45 +0100


Le 10 nov. 05, à 15:16, Phil Enns a écrit :

Andy Amago wrote:

"Okay, so now we know what his intention wasn't.  But what was his
intention?"

For the sake of this thread, it is immaterial. M. Chase was unable to
distinguish the moral difference between Iraqi terrorists trying to blow
up as many civilian Iraqis as possible and U.S. soldiers trying to stop
them.

M.C. It does indeed sound noble to describe U.S. Army activity as "trying to stop the terrorists". Heavens to betsy, who could be against that?


And yet the US soldiers were there before the terrorists, indeed it was their arrival that made possible the current infestation of Iraq by the brutal, savage al-Qaeda operatives of al-Zarqawi. Phil might care to recall that there was no terrorism under Saddam, nor any links to al-Qaeda.

So it looks like it's not quite true to say the US army is involved *only* in trying to stop terrorism. In 2003, while there was nary a terrorist to be found in Iraq, US troops were responsible for an unprovoked, illegal attack which began by shelling and bombing civilians : roughly 2000 killed and 4000 injured *in the first fifty days of the conflict alone*. We'll almost certainly never know the numbers of civilians killed by American troops in Fallujah and the countless other "operations" carried out by the "Coalition" in Iraq

At yet Phil despairs of me, because I can't see why these appalling casualties, inflicted on an innocent population by an unscrupulous group of liars in the White House, pursuing exclusively their own greedy and illegal agendas, are less evil than the actions of the Iraqi resistance.

Phil will probably argue, as E. Yost has done, that these casualties are mere collateral damage. I'm sure it would come as a tremendous consolation to the parents of children blown up in their beds at home, to know there were the victims of mere collateral damage rather than deliberate acts of terrorism. I'm sure they would be quick to adopt Eric's argument : "Hey, lots of us were being killed under Saddam anyway, so it's no biggie, you know ? I mean, we understand that Cheney has to get rich and Bush has to prove he's more of a macho hombre than his daddy : so if a few thousand of us innocent civilians have to get slaughtered in the process, then we're cool with that".


 I am glad that Andy is able to recognize the difference but I
despair of M. Chase.

I can live with that. For me, war crimes are war-crimes, and those committed by corrupt, cynical and fanatical American officials are every bit as evil as those carried out by Saddam, al-Qaeda, or anybody else, for that manner.


All best wishes,



(goya@xxxxxxxxxxx)
CNRS UPR 76
7, rue Guy Moquet
Villejuif 94801
France


Michael Chase (goya@xxxxxxxxxxx) CNRS UPR 76 7, rue Guy Moquet Villejuif 94801 France

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