Andreas writes, re 'whinge': 'The word has been around for three or four years in the UK. i've never heard a Brit pronounce it. the few Brits I know in Silicon Valley haven't heard it either.' These few Brits might not be a representative sample. Robert Paul Bingeing on the OED ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. whinge (hwInd3), sb. orig. Sc. and dial. [f. next.] A whine, esp. a peevish complaint. 1500-20 DUNBAR Poems xxxii. 10 He [sc. a fox]..schuk his taill, with quhinge and 3elp. 1825 CROKER Fairy Leg. Irel. I. 48 The whinge, and the yelp, and the screech, and the yowl. 1852 Meanderings of Mem. I. 170 With cur-like whinge to such soft cutting whip. 1938 S. BECKETT Murphy iii. 37 He threw his voice into an infant's whinge. `I cudden do anything, Maaaammy.' 1947 I. L. IDRIESS Isles of Despair xxxviii. 254 The bull [whale] complained with a stupid little grumbling whinge and edged a few yards farther away. 1963 [see PEANUT 2 b]. 1973 P. WHITE Eye of Storm i. 64 `You're so unfair!' A whinge developed through a moan into a downright blub. 1981 Listener 4 June 749/1 This is not just an envious whinge. 1982 J. THOMSON To make a Killing xiii. 231, I knew bloody well he'd shop me and make a fuss... He'd already had a whinge about the rubbish I'd left. 1985 Times 10 Jan. 10/6 In my one-but-last whinge I was going on about the burdensome duties of The Talk. 2. whinge (hwInd3), v. orig. Sc. and north. dial. Forms: 6 quhinge, quhynge, 9 winge, wheenge, 8 whindge, 7- whinge, 20 winge. [North. form of OE. hwinsian, corresp. to OHG. win(i)son (MHG. winsen; cf. MHG., G. winseln):-OTeut. *xwinisojan, f. root of hwinan to WHINE. For the suffix cf. OE. claensian to CLEANSE, bletsian to BLESS, ricsian to rule, ONor. hreinsa to cleanse; for the phonology of the form whinge cf. CLENGE, ringe, north. forms of CLEANSE, RINSE.] intr. To whine; esp. to complain peevishly. Hence 'whinging (also w(h)ingeing) vbl. sb. and ppl. a. A. 1150 MS. C.C.C. Camb. 303 125/7 Mid hwinsunge & mid dreori&asg.um mode hio [sc. the dogs] cerdon ealle on&asg.ean to pan hunten. A. 1150 MS. C.C.C. Camb. 303 126/14 Tha hundes ne &asg.eswicon to hwinsianne mid ceariendre staemne. 1513 DOUGLAS Aeneis XIII. iii. 28 The remanent of that questing sort,..about the master hunteir With quhyngeand mouthis quaikand standis for feir. 1513 DOUGLAS Aeneis 32 Thai hald thar mowthis still, Thar quhingeing and thar questing at his will Refrenis. 1562 WIN3ET Cert. Tractates Wks. (S.T.S.) I. 8 Dum doggis, quha..dar nother quhryne nor quhynge. 1720 C'TESS COWPER Diary (1864) 152 The second Time she said, whingeing [etc.]. 1725 RAMSAY Gentle Sheph. I. i, Daft Gowk! leave off that silly whindging Way. 1727 P. WALKER Life Semple etc. (1827) 316 You will die honourably before many Witnesses,..and I will die whinging upon a Pickle Straw. 1728 RAMSAY Last Sp. Miser xviii, The mair they whing'd, it gart me hug My swelling Purses. 1760-72 H. BROOKE Fool of Qual. (1792) I. v. 159 A little beggar boy,..whinging and shivering with cold. 1790 BURNS Elegy Capt. M- H- Epit. viii, Ony whiggish whingin' sot. A. 1837 R. NICOLL Poems (1842) 17, I needna greet, What gude on earth wad whingeing do? 1867 P. FITZGERALD Seventy-five Brooke St. I. xxi, This mean, whinging fellow. 1907 J. M. SYNGE Let. 31 Mar. (1971) 121 Forgive this contemptible sort of whinging. I am so lonely and miserable I cant help it. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 10 You crossed her last wish in death and yet you sulk with me because I don't whinge like some hired mute from Lalouette's. 1946 K. TENNANT Lost Haven (1947) xvii. 272 She had lifted up her brief skirt..to exhibit her sand-fly bites... `You don't want to whinge about them... You had a good time, didn't you?' 1955 S. BECKETT Molloy II. 172, I forgot that my son would be at my side,..whinging for food. 1965 Listener 2 Sept. 339/2 There is a stinging phrase in use, `wingeing Poms' (translate into `complaining English'). 1969 Advertiser (Adelaide) 12 May 5/4 Stop whingeing and give a bloke a go, mates. 1973 B. BAINBRIDGE Dressmaker 8 If that girl didn't stop her wingeing, the neighbours would be banging on the wall. 1983 Times Lit. Suppl. 11 Mar. 236/1 In 1849, Arnold whinged to Clough that the age was `..unpoetical'. 1983 Sunday Times 31 July 33/1 `What sort of people do Australians hate most?' `The whingeing Pom... Poms that come over and do nothing but whinge.' 1984 Times 20 Jan. 10/7 This is not the month for whingeing criticisms. 1984 Sunday Times 9 Dec. 7/1 All must drill most Tuesday nights..and not whinge when the trousers of their best suits are crumpled and smutted under the uniform. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WebOED 1.1 was brought to you by the Computer Science Club. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html