> I think P. A. Stone hit in the nail when he wrote that > > "Ice is, in fact, water" > > ----- > > By the same logic, > > "Water is, in fact, ice". > No... the logic is that 'water' is a bigger set than 'ice' since it also exists as liquid and gas. Similarly -- moms are women, not all women are moms p ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html