[lit-ideas] Re: What, then, is wanting to know?
- From: Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:18:19 -0800
John McCreery writes of Foucault's notion of 'the will to knowledge,'
and quotes him thus.
"For Aristotle, there was direct relationship between pleasure and
sensation, and therefore between the intensity of pleasure and the
quantitity of knowledge supplied by sense perception. The desire for
knowledge was a variant on the natural search for happiness and 'the
good'. For Nietzsche, knowledge is a product of a play of conflicting
instincts or desires, and of a will to appropriate and dominate.
Always provisional and unstable, it is always a slave to primal and
violent instincts."
I don't know what to make of this. Aristotle does not think either
that pleasure is a kind of sensation or that pleasure only arises from
sensations (e.g. sexual pleasure, a soothing massage, or inhaling the
aroma of some ridiculously overpriced wine). One can take pleasure in
doing something well, and although this might be true of various
activities related to my first example, it will also be true of having
completed the Nicomachean Ethics (I'll pretend it was a unified work
and not a compilation of lecture notes). The pleasure of having done
this doesn't arise from any sensation, even if seeing the work
complete makes one's scalp tingle.
But I've admitted that I don't know what Foucault means. At the
beginning of the Metaphysics, Aristotle says, or W. D. Ross says he says
'All men by nature desire to know. An indication of this is the
delight we take in our senses; for even apart from their usefulness
they are loved for themselves; and above all others the sense of
sight. For not only with a view to action, but even when we are not
going to do anything, we prefer seeing (one might say) to everything
else. The reason is that this, most of all the senses, makes us know
and brings to light many differences between things.
'By nature animals are born with the faculty of sensation, and from
sensation memory is produced in some of them, though not in others.
And therefore the former are more intelligent and apt at learning than
those which cannot remember; those which are incapable of hearing
sounds are intelligent though they cannot be taught, e.g. the bee, and
any other race of animals that may be like it; and those which besides
memory have this sense of hearing can be taught.
[lengthy passages omitted]
'Again, we do not regard any of the senses as Wisdom; yet surely these
give the most authoritative knowledge of particulars. But they do not
tell us the 'why' of anything-e.g. why fire is hot; they only say that
it is hot.'
As one can see, the knowledge got through the senses will take one
only so far. And of course Aristotle argues at length in the NE that
happiness is not pleasure, as some of his fellow Greeks had argued.
Why do you want to know things, in general? is a strange question. Why
do you want to know how to change a light bulb, or what the
conjugation of 'savoir' won't ordinarily be puzzling. Why do you want
to know anything at all? seems hopeless.
Robert Paul
Reed College
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"For Aristotle, there was direct relationship between pleasure and sensation, and therefore between the intensity of pleasure and the quantitity of knowledge supplied by sense perception. The desire for knowledge was a variant on the natural search for happiness and 'the good'. For Nietzsche, knowledge is a product of a play of conflicting instincts or desires, and of a will to appropriate and dominate. Always provisional and unstable, it is always a slave to primal and violent instincts."
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