Hmmm. Maybe we'll have to wait and see to be sure. The article in my paper written by Sandy Cohen of the Associated Press says "three bull mastiffs and an English Bulldog." Here is another article which says the same thing: http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/entertainment/film/actors-dogs-kill-caretaker-$1118847.htm But most of the articles I looked at just now said "mastiff" rather than "bull mastiff" so who knows? Lawrence ------------Original Message------------ From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, Aug-4-2007 12:43 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ving Rhames' Bullmastiffs Are you sure they were Bullmastiffs, not Neapolitan Mastiffs or (as one source says) Fila Brasileiro? Fila Brasileiros can't be kept here without an exemption (Dangerous Dogs Act), Bullmastiffs have a totally different and rather benign reputation here (but the breed association stresses that they are sociable and should not be kept outside or chained up). Ving Rhames certainly owned a Fila Brasileiro at one time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: Lit-Ideas Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Ving Rhames' Bullmastiffs In this morning’s paper is an article about a man being mauled to death by two dogs belonging to Ving Rhames. The dogs seized by "animal services" were three Bullmastiffs and one English bulldog, but only two of the four "appeared to be responsible" for the death. Even if the English bulldog was one of the dogs involved, the other had to be a Bullmastiff. "The 40-year-old victim . . . lived on the property and worked as a caretaker . . . for about two years . . . . He was among those responsible for caring for the dogs. . . ." The article goes on to say that "‘several’ dogs remain at the property." The Bullmastiff’s willingness to attack a man is well known. That and its willingness to attack other dogs are the reason they must be socialized at an early age. Presumably, since there were a number of dogs on the property, they were socialized in regard to dogs – but probably not as well as they should be with people. Or perhaps merely not with this particular person. One of my part-time jobs while I was going to college was working for Western Dry Kiln in the "heavy equipment" side of the business. It was owned by Frank Alexander, a big forceful obnoxious fellow. Frank had some things stolen in his yard and decided to get a "guard dog." He sent someone to the pound for the meanest dog they had, a mixed breed of some sort but it appeared to be mostly Doberman. For some unknown reason I was one of two people who worked for him who could handle this dog. Typically, when the day’s work was done, I would go to its pen and let it out to guard the yard. The other guy would put it in its pen in the morning. One day, Frank forgot that the dog was out and opened his office door and stood there looking out like Nebuchanezzer at all he had created. The dog leaped up and bit him on the chest. Frank shoved the dog off and slammed the door. I can’t say that this dog was trained to do that, I don’t know; but he was mean and there weren’t many people he would tolerate. Perhaps something like that was true of the two dogs who went after Rhames’ employee. Frank liked the idea of having a guard dog, but he didn’t seem to be good with dogs. Perhaps this workman wasn’t either. Perhaps this man shouldn’t have been working for Rhames, and perhaps that is where the culpability lies: Either Rhames didn’t question the man well enough about dogs, or the man, wanting the job, lied about his competence with dogs. I wouldn’t want a dog that is on everyone’s "fear list," and I’ll bet there are reporters out there right now busily searching for information on other Bullmastiff misdeeds. What a feather it would be in some reporter’s cap if he could establish the next "killer dog-breed." People are tired of reading about pit bulls, but Ving Rhames Bullmastiffs are new. With just the right handling someone (perhaps more than just one someone) can sell a lot of copy – especially if some other Bullmastiff maulings can be discovered. Night before last I took my two Rhodesian Ridgebacks: Ginger, age 4 and Sage, age 2, on one of our new walks – down some newly constructed sidewalks, past some shops still under construction and on down the street past a housing project to a neighborhood park – and back again. We had previously done this walk at night, but I decided to do it just before dark and encountered a couple of strange people. One of them jogged up behind us with a club. We were walking fast but not as fast as he wanted to jog, but he stayed behind us anyway until we turned onto a less busy street and then he went out into the street to run around us and shouted something as he did so about going around the dogs. I couldn’t understand him, and yelled back that I couldn’t, but he kept on going. I can only guess what was going on in his mind. Why would someone jog with a club except to ward off vicious dogs; which I obviously had – in his demented estimation. The other weird person was an India-Indian-looking girl who cringed away from the dancing Ginger and Sage with a look of panic on her face. Ginger and Sage have to be right up there as number one or number two of the friendliest dogs in the world, and their dancing-about body language indicated that they wanted to welcome a possible new friend, but this girl’s body language and expression said, "I’m going to die." So if I can get those reactions from my two inoffensive girls, I can imagine walking a Bullmastiff and having people curse me for owning a vicious dog. I might have already been cursed for having them by the man with the club, but I couldn’t hear him well enough to be sure. Last night we took one of our "dark and deserted" walks down a deserted road past some not-yet-finished housing construction and back again. The whole walk took a little over an hour. It was just getting dark when we started out and thoroughly dark when we got back on this first deserted road. Apparently a rabbit ran across the road. I didn’t see it, but both girls did and leaped forward to give chase. I was holding the leash with my still-mending left hand, and they gave me a jolt. I took two or three quick steps I hadn’t planned on taking and thought immediately of getting a different breed next time, something like a Bullmastiff or an Anatolian Shepherd. They don’t have a prey drive and probably wouldn’t want to chase a rabbit. But then, this morning, I read about Ving Rhames' dogs. . . . Lawrence