Lawrence, the enemy isn't Islam. The enemy is al Qaeda. Al Qaeda thrives on war and chaos, which is what we gave them. That old Leftist Herbert Bush didn't invade because he knew exactly this would happen. Leftist Baker says in so many words that he used to be repeatedly asked why they didn't go into Baghdad, and he's no longer asked that. If you're going to point fingers at "Leftists" you have to name names. So far, we have two: Bush Sr., James Baker. Who else? You're looking ahead to 2008. How about 2002-2006? Leftists the way you use it is tantamount to bogieman. Just a word that means "someone messed it up". Bogieman, Everyman, Leftist. They're all synonyms, since there are never any names attached to them. It's interesting that you say, "just as long as you keep fighting". Fighting is exactly what al Qaeda thrives on. That was the Baker Commission's point, the fighting is going nowhere ("grave and deteriorating"). Time to start talking would you say? ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 12/12/2006 2:00:25 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Victor Hanson in Iraq When the Democrats win in 2008, will they be able to utterly abandon the ?war against Terror?? I think not. Many of them, but not the Leftists among them, have argued that the war should be fought, just not the way Bush & Rumsfeld fought it. And if someone were to look back in the archives and read what I wrote after 9/11, he would find that I described that as all I hoped for. Quibble about how to fight it all you want -- just as long as you keep fighting -- and make it clear to Militant Islam that you will continue to do so. Lawrence, returning to Melville and other literary matters