[lit-ideas] Re: Understanding Why The Compressor Shorted To Ground
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:22:25 -0330
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Quoting Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>Understanding requires something more then mere 'hearsay'.
-------------> True.
>
> Otherwise you get the classical paradox of the knower.
----------------> Not being much of a classicist, the reference escapes me.
Where does the paradox initially rear its ugly head?
>
> I know that "the compressor shorted to ground" is false.
>
> Yet because I know "the compressor shorted to ground" is false, the
> statement, "I know that 'the compressor shorted to ground' is false" is
> itself a true statement.
--------> True.
>
> It can be both true and false because the "truth value" of the
> statement, "I know that "the compressor shorted to ground" is false" is
> not itself grounded in truth, but only in hearsay.
-------> At best, unclear. What is the "it" that can be both true and false? If
it refers to a statement (or proposition), then "it" cannot be both T and F. No
statement can be both T and F.
>
> Or maybe I don't understand?
-------------------> It's certainly logically possible.
Or is this like the pilot who was
> electrocuted mid-air because he wasn't grounded?
---------------> Or as my Ancient Greeek Philosophy professor wrote on the first
page of my test in 1971: "Is this some sort of a joke?" (A joke is not a
philosophical account. Although it may illustrate a philosophical truth .... or
falsity. But not both simultaneously and in the same respect.)
Walter O.
MUN
>
> Not-self to other self,
> Logical Tyro, Jr.
>
>
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