[lit-ideas] Re: Understanding Why The Compressor Shorted To Ground
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:48:51 -0330
This still doesn't look like philosophy to me. Is it some sort of song? Sung by
Dusty Springfield perhaps?
Postponing returning to turkey leftovers, here is an open question to the List:
What is philosophy, why do we pursue and teach it and why has it consistently
buried its undertakers over the past 2,000 years?
(Yes, the careful reader will note that we have here 5 questions. Choose one or
more of the above.)
Walter Okshevsky, PhD
Chair,
Department of Philosophy
The Callicles Open University
Shaker Heights, Ohio
Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> God wanted this to happen to me?
>
> You have to understand that I use the term "God" as shorthand for: whatever
> happens happens because it happens. No need to look further or farther than
> our father Fate. I know that jangles them what believes the Fates are
> female, but that's the way the rock rolls -- in other words:
> That's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
> Oh, that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
> Yes, that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
>
> But could it have been otherwise?
>
> Of course it could have been. Preventive maintenance, especially cleaning
> the condenser coil, oiling the fan motor, tightening electrical connections
> may well have prevented or at least forestalled this burn-out. But you chose
> not to have any maintenance performed on your system. And you decided that
> because:
> That's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
> Oh, that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
> Yes, that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
>
> So it's all God's fault, I'm not to blame here.
>
> Exactly. We're just Job doing our job as God likes it.
>
> Mike Geary
> living in Memphis because
> That's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
> Oh, that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
> Yes, that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh,
> God likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:24 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Understanding Why The Compressor Shorted To Ground
>
>
> Geary says:
>
> >God wanted it that way.
>
> -- and it's true -- and while teleological explanations are conceivable,
> they are neither here nor there. We are discussing the conceivability of
> concepts (conceptus --> conceive, v.)
>
> Notably, the exchange:
>
> A: The compressor shorted to ground.
> B: I don't know what a compressor is
> I don't know what to short is.
> A: You don't know shit.
> B: :-)
> A: So?
> B: Are you _explaining_ me?
> A: Well, let McEvoy do that.
>
>
> MCEVOY enters with an attitude,
>
> McEVOY: Mind, I don't have the time, nor the sexual inclination, but
> I'll help you guys out.
> B: That's a delight to hear.
> McEvoy: It's all guesswork. Guess ... Guess ... Guess ...
> R. Paul: Perhaps we can adapt the example in Reichenbachian terms
> (gets chalk and writes on board)
>
> PREMISA MAIORIS:
> All compressors short to ground when [God
> wants that]
> or other
> hypothesis
> And God wanted this
> __________________________________
>
> Ergo, this compressor shorted to ground.
>
> McEvoy: Right. It's all mechanical and causal.
>
> Phil Enns (in Indonesia, via telegram):
>
> "I object"
>
> Geary: What did he say?
> Paul: He says he objects.
> Geary: Maybe we should give him the opportunity through the phone.
>
> (They dial Indonesia)
>
> ENNS: "Knowing that the compressor shorted to ground because God wanted it
> is inconceivable unless the knower _knows_ what a compressor is, and what to
> short is --)
>
> JLS: I would refer to the attributive/referential. I can say, "I know what
> a cow is, although I never saw one -- Just hearsay. In other words, I _heard_
> what a cow is."
>
> Yost (as an aside): He is quoting from the Homeric hymn.
>
> Etc.
>
> J. L. Speranza
> Buenos Aires, Argentina
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