Geary says: >God wanted it that way. -- and it's true -- and while teleological explanations are conceivable, they are neither here nor there. We are discussing the conceivability of concepts (conceptus --> conceive, v.) Notably, the exchange: A: The compressor shorted to ground. B: I don't know what a compressor is I don't know what to short is. A: You don't know shit. B: :-) A: So? B: Are you _explaining_ me? A: Well, let McEvoy do that. MCEVOY enters with an attitude, McEVOY: Mind, I don't have the time, nor the sexual inclination, but I'll help you guys out. B: That's a delight to hear. McEvoy: It's all guesswork. Guess ... Guess ... Guess ... R. Paul: Perhaps we can adapt the example in Reichenbachian terms (gets chalk and writes on board) PREMISA MAIORIS: All compressors short to ground when [God wants that] or other hypothesis And God wanted this __________________________________ Ergo, this compressor shorted to ground. McEvoy: Right. It's all mechanical and causal. Phil Enns (in Indonesia, via telegram): "I object" Geary: What did he say? Paul: He says he objects. Geary: Maybe we should give him the opportunity through the phone. (They dial Indonesia) ENNS: "Knowing that the compressor shorted to ground because God wanted it is inconceivable unless the knower _knows_ what a compressor is, and what to short is --) JLS: I would refer to the attributive/referential. I can say, "I know what a cow is, although I never saw one -- Just hearsay. In other words, I _heard_ what a cow is." Yost (as an aside): He is quoting from the Homeric hymn. Etc. J. L. Speranza Buenos Aires, Argentina **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)