[lit-ideas] Re: Tune in and turn off
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- Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:39:10 EDT
<<'I feel numb' >>
Thank you. I now have the best possible example for my daughter of paradox.
Julie Krueger
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Carol wrote:
>>It seems we can clearly get
>>a 'feeling' when we pinch our finger
>
>
> ck: This is physical sensation. Feelings commonly refer to emotions, not
> sensory input. But before we get carried away and quibble ourselves into a
> frenzy, is this thread the same that began with "self-awareness" vs.
> "self-consciousness"--that is, losing self-consciousness when you're fully
> focused on an activity?
The very thread. We do use the word 'feel' indifferently between e.g.
'I feel angry,' and 'I feel numb' (by way of reporting to a dentist that
the anesthesia is kicking in). If someone denied that numbness was a
feeling I wouldn't know what they were trying to deny, but Carol's
right, such ambiguity doesn't show that bodily sensations and 'mental
states' (feeling blue) are the same kind of thing, whatever that kind is.
When I responded to an early post in the original thread by wondering
what it was to be aware of oneself, as opposed to being aware that one
was making choices ('mental choices,' maybe) in solving a problem that
requires them, as one must at the forks Suber mentions, I was met with
stony silence. There is no such entity as the self, he said, wishing
that Hume's ghost would sign onto lit-ideas.
Robert Paul
Reed College
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